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Shaun @ All Star

Unit 3/21 Vale Street

Malaga, Western Australia 6090

Ph: 08 9248 7433

they got very good results from my friends turbo honda, Shaun spent the extra time to get the tune right, and he was more than happy to spend more time on it once my friend had taken the car out and driven on the street and found some issue with the vtec and the turbo.

Shaun also tune my car with A+++ results (powerfc) and if i didn't already have a pfc i would be going down the ultimate path as in my opinion it is a far better ecu that the pfc

Edited by [Michael]

i think the question should be who tunes e-manages WELL

hyper drive told me to stay away from them cos they cant get good results

and they are a greddy dealer

but i dunno i haven dealt with allstar

so i cant say any thing good or bad

let me know how it goes

cos im gonna go down the pfc path but im worried bout the auto box

Shaun also tune my car with A+++ results (powerfc) and if i didn't already have a pfc i would be going down the ultimate path as in my opinion it is a far better ecu that the pfc

Seriously you can't put the pfc and emanage in the same category. The emanage is just a glorified safc.

Seriously you can't put the pfc and emanage in the same category. The emanage is just a glorified safc.

pfc is old and overprice for what it can do (can pay anywhere from $1000 to $1500 for one for an r33) greddy ultimate is far from a glorified safc, it can do everything the pfc can do and alot more. it is very popular in Japan, many cars run it for example d1 s15 running 400-500hp.

if i can be stuffed later i will post up the laist of its spec.

Just because some tuners haven't learn how to tune it 100% and/or find it hard to tune with doesn't make it a crappy ecu

Edited by [Michael]

pfc is old and overprice for what it can do (can pay anywhere from $1000 to $1500 for one for an r33) greddy ultimate is far from a glorified safc, it can do everything the pfc can do and alot more. it is very popular in Japan, many cars run it for example d1 s15 running 400-500hp.

if i can be stuffed later i will post up the laist of its spec.

Just because some tuners haven't learn how to tune it 100% and/or find it hard to tune with doesn't make it a crappy ecu

PFC overpriced for plug n play with perfect driveability?

You can hardly call the Emanage an ECU cos it's only a piggy back system of the standard ecu(just like a safc).

My 3c

Glorified safc? LoL. They're pretty decent for the price, and the amount of stuff it can do. EG: remove afm and run map, adapt to bigger injectors, launch control, remove boost cut, speed cut, bla bla bla. You're still prolly thinking of the emanage blue?

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/ma...56-t161460.html

Some info.

Edited by KeeFy

Yeah and for those who don't want/need to go down the full blown ECU replacement path, e-manage ultimate looks like a pretty good deal. Any one running extensive mods might want to consider something else, but for the majority of people running mild mods and in need of a tune, the e-manage makes sense peformance wise and financially (given the tune isn't done poorly the first time..).

have heard of a few problems with ultimates on rb's

had a r34 auto with one here , owner gave up and removed

just be careful and do research , find a tuner with proven results on skylines and ultimates and talk to the owners of the tunes

even with an r33 auto I would run the pfc , for what you get there still worth 1500

AFAIK on the R34s the most common problem would be the coils. An adaptor is needed (from greddy) to work with the emanage ultimate, if not it'll fry the coils in a matter of mins to secs.

I agree a PFC is the fool proof way to go about it, but $1500 in comparison to $700+ to $800 is a huge difference IMO. The other thing about buying a PFC now is they are mostly seconds, and if it screws up, well... you know the drill.

Thread through the pages from the link i posted up above, answers most questions and from the results from the drift car, do you rekkon it's another safc bling?

GReddy Ultimate is the second best thing to any full featured ecu.

Is miles above SAFC and other signal benders because it bends 'all' signals, adjust AF ratio... if you could get a AFC 'bender' + timing 'bender' you would be fine.

Ultimate does a lot more than just these two...

I recommended NIStune because it makes stock ecu retuneable and retains stock auto shift logic(as does Ultimate - technically) + retains knock maps for engine protection.

Power FC is second best as it is plug and play, and is well supported... but is rare as/slash expensive as....

At the end of the day, choose your trusted tuner and go with their recommendation.

Edited by infamous_t
how much do did you pay for a tune at tenagah, (if ya don't mind) dealed with them before and they were petty expensive

found out today when talking to him that glen 'Lumpy' camble tune it through them. cost 50 to use dyno and 160 for tune. he said that he has left hyperdrive and is freelance tuning now?

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