R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 my r33 gtst has blown another bush bearing hiflowed turbo. only 3000k's old. never been boosted past 14 psi. the comp wheel has disentergrated but no shaft play and rear wheel in tact. still spins perfect. and nothing has gone through the turbo as the afm and panel filter are still in perfect order. the last turbo that had failed was due to apparent oil contamination but i done an engine oil flush, new filters, and braided oil lines. so i dont think there was a chance of that happening again. made damn sure of it but this new one has gone on me. so upsetting. i was told it would be perfect and up to spec and should be fine for 18psi if i wanted to boost the turbo more at a later date. i hope the 12 month warranty will cover this. as i am in the hunt for a new turbo setup,( ball bearing this time ) what would best suit me to reach a goal of 260-270 rwk on say 15 psi that is a direct bolt on application for my r33 gtst. thankyou. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 before doing anything find the cause of the failure Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 i think the cause of the turbo dying was too much preload off the actuator??? i never had a boost controller. had to boost the car like this. another tuner i took it to said whoever tuned your car has put too much preload on the actuator. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Too much preload wont kill a turbo unless it cant handle the boost you are running (which is so unlikely its not funny) So whoever was feeding you that - is full of shit More pre-load the better if your running higher boost levels. Leads to less chance of boost spikes and creeps. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 sooo.... which "hiflow" was this? pm me if its a secret. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 i really dont know why it blew. dosent make sence.. maybe the k&n filters??? it was a panel filter too by the way Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 the comp cover is blown but theres no shaft play at all. got me stuffed this thing Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Compressor surge and lots of it could I suppose. Most likely there was a balance issue and the blades touched the side. Which hiflow were you running? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 pics, and how many is this now? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3733992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I'd rather hear the report as to why it failed before i say its the turbo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granthem Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Just when im considering a hi flow - thread steal! check my thread aswell turbo gurus lol. Need your advice On topic, thats pretty harsh. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 its an MTQ journal bearing hiflowed turbo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 pics, and how many is this now? this is the 2nd hiflow turbo now Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 You run a BOV as opposed to a so called 'dose' pipe or none at all? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 looking at a garrett 3071r turbo... will it make about 260-270rwk without ringing its neck. i dont know much about specs so if someone could reccommend a turbo for me for that power running about 15-16psi would be much appreciated this time im gonna do it right Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GOD Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 You run a BOV as opposed to a so called 'dose' pipe or none at all? i run the standard BOV. the bov is slightly squashed to incerase spring tension ( was told to do this on the forums). was getting compressor surge still. not huge amount though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granthem Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 all these hi flows being destroy lately is scarring me. Im looking like im gonna need a new turbo now Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DECIM8 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Dont know if any of you have noticed, but the ones that keep breaking are all journal highflows.. Random? I think not.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 this time im gonna do it right Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHDave Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 There's nothing inherently wrong with a bushed turbo. You don't see 15 year old s13's spitting out compressors every 10k. My last turbo was bushed and that copped a flogging for 2 years that i owned it without missing a beat. It wasn't water cooled either. Hopefully the new owner gets plenty of enjoyment out of it too. I can't really add any more at this stage other than you are either very unlucky, or you have missed something on both your installs. You don't still have the stock banjo at the block end or something like that? Have you tried cranking the engine with the oil feed off and see if it is getting oil through? There's nothing wrong with a k&n panel. I run one myself as do numerous other members. What sort of intake pipe do you run? is there evidence of paint/chrome/rust flakes on the inside? The 3071 seems to be the turbo of the moment. I have a few teething problems atm so i'm not going to say it will or won't meet your expectations, but an initial lazy run of 260rwkw on 16psi looks promising, as does the boost response if you can keep the gate closed. I just have to work through a boost control issue at the moment which i strongly suspect is dump pipe related and hopefully it will be good. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211171-another-blown-hiflow/#findComment-3734740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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