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hmmm.... Now we are going back to the basics

Although the basics seem rather..well... basic! :laugh:

However, they are very important as they are the foundation of a good tune.

Some of the wild variations we are seeing in tuning numbers are in part due to the basics being incorrect.

You can not have a useful comparison unless comparing apples and apples.

All engine/turbo set ups do have different characteristics (so need different numbers to make them perform best)

But you cannot hope to see the differences unless your basic set-up is correct and consistent.

Anyway, enough from me.... back to looking at your tunes :banana:

When you think about it, its easier to just whack the car on the dyno do a few power runs, chuck in a extra couple of deg timing and trim the fuel.. 4 or 5 runs and walllaaa your done. $350 later the customer has more power and is happy with their tuner.

I have seen many many dodgy jobs make very very happy customers. its about the $$$

Back in the day i was one of those customers who were happy with his $200 tune.

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bring it to me i will fix it.

Your timing in the mid range needs to be checked.

I'd like to see you just change the midrange timing.. my ECU is standard too :P

Tempted to get a PFC so it can be properly tuned for 98RON, but I'm probably wasting my time with a standard exhaust.

Exhaust + PFC + 10psi could be a good move when I have the money tho.

Your $200 tune story sounds like a friend of mine.. he had a basic "on/off" tune done on his EVO4 and the thing just dumped fuel on boost. We always joked about our fuel gauges going up when we followed him, and told him to get a proper tune as he was probably washing his bores down with raw fuel. Sure enough, the engine only lasted a short while and it was up for another rebuild.

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