S-AFC II vs. Greddy e-Manage

[cobo_11]

Hey all,

I have some spare cash and want to get one of these piggy back air/fuel computers.

I have read that the e-manage is supposed to be the best, but I have found it's generally twice, if not more, the price of the S-AFC II.

My car is a pretty much dead stock, I have a 3" cat back exhaust, performance clutch and a POD filter on the way.

Would the Apexi do the job no worries? or would the e-manage be a better buy even though it's more expensive?

Appreciate any help.

Cheers.

PS: I don't plan on upgrading the turbo or any other major bits and pieces, so I don't want to waste money on an e-manage if I would never need it.

[hippy]

spend it on other stuff like a dump pipe .. boost controller ... and then buy a cheap safc .. better value for money i think ...

[cobo_11]

Those are on the list, but I want to be able to control the mixture so it dosen't run lean or rich and go kapow...:-)

[RbHed]

if u get a s-afc / e-manage and then get tune with ur current mods it wont make that much of a difference... plus u probably have to get retune once u get it boosted..

most skylines run rich once u start adding mods so u dont have to worry about ur car leaning out.... so im with hippy, get ur bolt on stuff ( dump pipe, ebc, fmic or wateva ) then the s-afc / e-manage..

[Redbaboon]

Spot on RbHead

[RSR33]

So that I have it straight, Iwill get better performance and economy from doing dump pipe etc than to fit the e-manage or s-afc?

[cobo_11]

Thanks guys, I will have to sit down and have a long hard think about it all...

[WLD747]

get a safc much better control and cheaper

[akeenan]

up the boost and get a full exhaust

[ned]

I am confused why you say that the emanage was twice the price, I was interested because it was cheaper or the same for what offers more control (AFR AND ignition timing vs AFR only)

Hikariperformance: New Trust Emanage with ignition and injection harnless AUD$680.00

(Hikari) APEXI S-AFC AIR FLOW CONTROLLER AUD$600.00

(Belperformance) Super ITC Super Ignition Timing Converter AUD$500

Ned

[Driver]

ild go emanage.

comes with ignition timing

[Guest Robo's]

I got the dump pipe, then some extra boost and it did bugger all, only made it run worse. Then got the SAFC and now she has balls, i only picked up and extra 60rwkw.

[cobo_11]

extra 60rwkw...nice.

ned: according to www.greenline.jp the S-AFC II would cost me around $AU460 delivered, and the eManage and both the harness' and support tool would cost me $AU780 delivered.

Just to clear things up, I don't want to get the S-AFC II or eManage or extra power or anything like that, it's just to control the mixture and have peace of mind that it's not running too lean and pinging and etc. etc...

[cobo_11]

keeping the car running well is more important to me than power as I don't have the money to replace the turbo or pistons or anything else that might die on me due to my noviceness. :-)

[xRHETTx]

Well if ur a novice you probably wont need the support tool, just get a workshop to tune it for you. The money you save from not buying the support tool can go towards getting it tuned professionly.

[cobo_11]

That's a good idea. But I think I would like to have it anyway (the support tool, if I were to get an eManage) so I could slowly teach myself and experiment.

[xRHETTx]

I think eventually, once ive paid back the bank a bit more money, Ill go Emange and greddy boost controller. Seems that it would do everything important that a SAFC, AVCR and power fc does, for a bit cheaper, and ur able to tune it on a computer.

And looks cooler too.

[cobo_11]

hehe, true.

I think I'll end up getting an eManage, do it right the first time I reckon!

[Driver]

yea i went the emanage over the safc im waiting for mine to be deliverd

[cobo_11]

would I need a laptop to read the mixture and all that stuff using an eManage? or does the support tool have a small screen thing like the PowerFC?

I might contemplate getting the PRofec E-01 one day, but it's a bit expensive...