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DrewII

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Back in the day you your required a highflow to push over 200rwkw.

These days the dyno's push 200rwkw on stock turbo's so I believe its just the dyno's reading a little happy.

The dyno I run on typically 190rwkw is what a stock turbo'd r33 can achieve with the usual boost - 12psi, tune, exhaust & fmic. Throw an adj cam gear on and you can squeeze it a little over 200rwkw.

As R31Nismoid says the power figures 'these days' just don't add up with the MPH.

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yeah mine was done by someone in melb and on 10psi and im making just shy of 185 (on a spazz tune that has huge flat spot) only wished Toshi would come to melb so mine can be fixed up!

I dont know about "safely" on the std turbs, some shit themselves at minimal boost my concern is how it drives, mines a shit bastard to drive afterwards as fark all light throttle and cruising adjustments are made, mine feels like I have lag as soon as the air gets cooler...although I like the extra 20 odd kw, I really dont think its worth the headache if your car is in standard form.

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to answer your questions you cannot compare the "drive" of my setup now and before. before it felt like shit. rough, flat spots, not a very smooth band of power at all. now it feels much more refined but at the same time injecting more power with each gear. even at low rpm on low boost feels so much smoother.

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so rb20's will just make 200rwkw with rb25 turbos but rb25's wont?!?

depends if your from WA or not i think mainly.

Generally you see RB20s make around 170-185rwkw on 14psi or so with the RB25 turbo (going by the results in the RB20 dyno thread)

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i think he meant R32s with full RB25DET conversion. no way a RB20 with RB25 turbo can make 200kw.

depends if your from WA or not i think mainly.

Generally you see RB20s make around 170-185rwkw on 14psi or so with the RB25 turbo (going by the results in the RB20 dyno thread)

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If you want a remap. Sam AKA Dr Drift does them and is conveniently located in Melbourne ...

i don't think he does the R33 Remaps, he installs a daughter board on the R33 ecu making it live tuneable... and that costs over 1k plus tune costs..

or else id be happy to go to him for a remap..

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i don't think he does the R33 Remaps, he installs a daughter board on the R33 ecu making it live tuneable... and that costs over 1k plus tune costs..

or else id be happy to go to him for a remap..

thats what Toshi does :banana:

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Back in the day you your required a highflow to push over 200rwkw.

These days the dyno's push 200rwkw on stock turbo's so I believe its just the dyno's reading a little happy.

The dyno I run on typically 190rwkw is what a stock turbo'd r33 can achieve with the usual boost - 12psi, tune, exhaust & fmic. Throw an adj cam gear on and you can squeeze it a little over 200rwkw.

As R31Nismoid says the power figures 'these days' just don't add up with the MPH.

All figures aside as i believe that you can go to 3 different dyno's and get 3 different readings... how confident is anyone about how much power they are putting out... 1/4 mile times also is not all about power i think set up and driver ability come into it as well. ..... I am very happy with the way my car performs now after a remap from Toshi.... I am not going to modify my car any further and it did seem to have a flat spot in the mid range before ... after the ecu was changed over i noticed a big difference in the way the car pulls under heavy acceleration was much better than before and appears to do it through out rev range, car seems much quicker, smoother and power is more linear (i did up the boost a little as well)...

i just got 509kms out of 52.7 ltrs was mainly open road driving with occasional squirts thrown in as i was wanting to see how good my economy was as well (did change O2 sensor) but all in all DRIVABILITY , power and fuel economy is all good and im very happy for the money I spent. I dont have the fastest car on the road but it is quick and it runs well :-) was a good option for me........my 2 cents worth.....

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depends if your from WA or not i think mainly.

Generally you see RB20s make around 170-185rwkw on 14psi or so with the RB25 turbo (going by the results in the RB20 dyno thread)

its wierd how wa dynos make so much power, but then when you send over "eastern spec" mainline dynos over for autosalon we still make more power than you... maybe the air is just more oxygenated over here?!? haha

i think he meant R32s with full RB25DET conversion. no way a RB20 with RB25 turbo can make 200kw.

ooooooooooooooooo really

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All figures aside as i believe that you can go to 3 different dyno's and get 3 different readings... how confident is anyone about how much power they are putting out... 1/4 mile times also is not all about power i think set up and driver ability come into it as well. ..... I am very happy with the way my car performs now after a remap from Toshi.... I am not going to modify my car any further and it did seem to have a flat spot in the mid range before ... after the ecu was changed over i noticed a big difference in the way the car pulls under heavy acceleration was much better than before and appears to do it through out rev range, car seems much quicker, smoother and power is more linear (i did up the boost a little as well)...

i just got 509kms out of 52.7 ltrs was mainly open road driving with occasional squirts thrown in as i was wanting to see how good my economy was as well (did change O2 sensor) but all in all DRIVABILITY , power and fuel economy is all good and im very happy for the money I spent. I dont have the fastest car on the road but it is quick and it runs well :-) was a good option for me........my 2 cents worth.....

i agree with you. its easily not the fastest on the road but damn i feel it is definitely quick enough now. and quick enough to put a lot of cars to shame too. before i dunno i just didnt have the confidence that the car was running as well or was as quick as it should be. this remap was all it needed.

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i think he meant R32s with full RB25DET conversion. no way a RB20 with RB25 turbo can make 200kw.

You theory is flawed.

By what you're saying, I should be making 220rwkw because I have an RB25 turbo on an RB30..

A turbo will make the same power on whatever motor it is on because it can only flow "so" much air. Smaller or larger capacity will just make the power later or sooner.

I also resent the WA reference, not all of us are dyno fiddling dodgy brothers :D

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I also resent the WA reference, not all of us are dyno fiddling dodgy brothers :)

I second that.

I am running a RB20 with normal bolt on mods, GTR injectors, GTR fuel pump, R34 RB25 turbo and a Nistune Remap and I am making 195kw.

Next thing needs to be AFM.

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I second that.

I am running a RB20 with normal bolt on mods, GTR injectors, GTR fuel pump, R34 RB25 turbo and a Nistune Remap and I am making 195kw.

Next thing needs to be AFM.

nice curve impressive. i didnt think R32s with RB25 turbos could make so much power

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nice curve impressive. i didnt think R32s with RB25 turbos could make so much power

Cheers, unfortunately I don't know what the before and after was for the JUST the remap, as I installed the turbo and injectors, towed it to the shop and got it tuned.

So i noticed a huge difference, but it wasn't all from the tune obviously :blink:

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