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It shows another thing as well, not everything is shown night/day on a dyno sheet when talking circuit applications.

Plotted on graphs they might look very similar, however actually driving them on/off throttle is something else again

What would be very interesting is seeing the motors held at 5000rpm with no load then stomping on the loud pedal and comparing the curves that way.

I'm surprised no one does this as it would be a great way to demonstrate transient response. Obviously the same ramp rates and gearing would need to be used for it to be a useful comparison, but I don't think that would be too hard to do.

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  • 1 month later...

Gccg are fitting the TO4Z 63trim comp wheel into the GT3582r and are calling it a GT3566r , I guess this is mainly for the XR6 ford turbo engines as a up grade , But i was wondering if this turbo would be a good compromise between the Gt35r and the TO4z in giving the best of both worlds in both turbos , Garrett has just released the GTX3582r turbo so that also looks to be a option , closer to a TO4Z.

  • 7 months later...

I know its been a while since this thread was alive but i thought my results would spark up some debate again.

R34 GTT

RB26/30

Gt35r .82 rear

3.5" exhaust

exhaust side of head port matched and polished.

CP pistons

spool rods

9:1 comp

25psi

390.1rwkw

390rwkw.th.jpg

Nice result, which fuel?

believe it or not its on 98ron Shell Vpower =]

Never got a chance to test it on e85, especially after the twin 044 pumps and teflon fuel lines. Had a offer to buy it that i couldnt refuse. Deposit paid and the car picked up next week.

So sad =[

I never understood why people built cars like that and then sold them straight away, what is the point in spending all that money otherwise?

believe it or not its on 98ron Shell Vpower =]

Never got a chance to test it on e85, especially after the twin 044 pumps and teflon fuel lines. Had a offer to buy it that i couldnt refuse. Deposit paid and the car picked up next week.

So sad =[

These things make even more with aftermarket cams, a lad I know has made >400kw @ hubs on slightly less boost with an RB25/30 with a .82a/r GT3582R on 98 :)

  • 8 months later...

These things make even more with aftermarket cams, a lad I know has made >400kw @ hubs on slightly less boost with an RB25/30 with a .82a/r GT3582R on 98 :)

I never got to play with cams but judging by how efficient the setup was. Cams would of saw power everywhere throughout the rev range. Definitely worth while!

  • 3 years later...

I know its an old thread but I have a question with anyone that are or were running TO4Zs.

I am finding mine a bit oil blowy with a 1mm restrictor in a -4 oil feed line. Anyone have any issues running a 0.8mm or less restrictor. I am still on a run in tune with a 5k limiter and pushing 5+ bar engine oil pressure, so thinking might have to reduce the flow even more seeing that the zeds don't like anymore than 3 bar in their feed line. Any wisdom would be much appreciated.

Edited by XGTRX

I don't think you should run a restricter like normal gt turbo. I'm not running 1 on my t04z and I'm not having any problems

What size feed are you running, I am thinking maybe my -4 is to big

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