Getting Off A Speeding Fine..

[minger]

I saw a while ago on here someone offering info on how to leagally dispute and win speeding fines. Something to do with the accuracy of their cameras and the speedo of your car as well as the lack of laws to monitor their accuracy.

Any one have the link to this thread (tried searching but couldnt find) or have any info???? Thanks in advance.

[dan_the_man]

I saw a while ago on here someone offering info on how to leagally dispute and win speeding fines. Something to do with the accuracy of their cameras and the speedo of your car as well as the lack of laws to monitor their accuracy.

Any one have the link to this thread (tried searching but couldnt find) or have any info???? Thanks in advance.

Pay it like everyone else. If it were that simple, everyone would do it.

[minger]

even when you know your speedo is wrong and you've been done only 3km over the limit???? Fair? I dont think so..... Fight? Sure am.

[Bakes]

I would fight 3Km over limit also. Thats BS.

[madbung]

Sorry to say it but your speedo calibration is your responsibility.

If you have larger than stock diameter rims ect..

It's all down to you.

They already calulate the allowable variation, it should be on the ticket.

So if the ticket is for 63 in a 60 zone you would have been pinged @ 67-68kph.

If you want to fight it, it'll probably end up costing you a lot more than the ticket cost.

[Bakes]

^^True that. Unless his wheel size is out the other way and his speedo is reading less than what he is doing.

[minger]

standard rims........

any more?

[madbung]

your speedo calibration is your responsibility

They already calulate the allowable variation, it should be on the ticket.

So if the ticket is for 63 in a 60 zone you would have been pinged @ 67-68kph.

Just to re-iterate..

It's up to you.

[dan_the_man]

even when you know your speedo is wrong and you've been done only 3km over the limit???? Fair? I dont think so..... Fight? Sure am.

Ok. Let us know how it goes.

[(B1) MR_fanny]

yep, they give you the benefit of the doubt and deduct 3ks or so off the original speed they caught you at so you would have been caught doing 67-68 as stated. And yep if your speedo is out, its your responsibility to get it fixed.

Why bother fighting it unless your car could not physically be able to do that alledged speed or your gonna loose youre license because of it.

[some_cs_student]

You have a high risk of the judge throwing it out of court within 5mins, while a 3km/h fine is a little ridiculous it is the law

[rtune]

I think I remember a recent news article saying a new initiative was to stop booking and deducting points

from "law abiding" citizens who get caught just a bit over the limit. Simply put, the "anti hoon" and zero

tolerance attitude was causing too many "good people" to lose their licenses..

seriously, it was in the SMH, do a search you can probably find it.

edit: there you go, it was based on what this minister said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/14/2419994.htm

Edited December 8, 2008 by r34nur

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

LOL yes officer i knew my brake lights werent working.. but it's his fault that he rear ended me...

Speeding is speeding my friend.. however 3ks.. or even 6-7ks over is stupid.. i know every k over... but still if they calculated it at 3ks after the adjustment then that is within reason i'd say.. and maybe the machine was out by 4k/s.. the system is flawed in every way.. i'd fight it

[R33GTRKid]

Australian ADR's allow for upto a 10% margin of error.

That means if you are travelling at an indicated 100km/h in your brand new vehicle on the way home from the dealership, you could actually be doing up to 110km/h.

Are you telling me you need to get your speedo calibrated as soon as you drive out of the showroom, dont be ridiculous.

If the Police have issued you with an infringement alleging you were travelling at a speed that was less than 10% above the posted speed limit (ie anywhere between 101 and 110 in a 100 zone) and have not made a 10% adjustment in your favour before writing the ticket, then I would fight it for sure.

Before you do so, get your speedo checked, if it is within the 10% ADR allowed error and that means your indicated speed was on or below the speed limit, that is all the evidence you need.

You will need to also have a copy of the relevant ADR that provides for the 10% margin of error as being acceptable and that, along with the report from the speedo calibration place is enough. You should set it all out in writing to the fines adjudication officer in your state before the due date for paying the infringement.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

i think that one has been tried... and failed

[madbung]

lol yes the adrs do allow for a 10% over read but in reality all modern cars roll out with a 3% or less variation.. The police only allow 3-4kph, this is allowing for a 1% variation for their method of dectection and 2-3kph for speedo or minor driver error.

Australian design regulations don't really have any impact on speeding tickets.

and yep...your speedo calibration or knowledge of it's inaccuracy so you can adjust your driving is entirely up to you.

The car passed adr's the rest is all yours.

[mid life crisis]

the margin has now been reduced it;s not 10% anymore . good idea fight the speeding charge you might win that and when you take your argument to court you may come away with a defected car for a faulty speedo . ffs just pay the fine and get on with life

[madbung]

Police tolerance was reduced midlife, the adr remains the same.

The adr is still 10% maybe being an Australian standard each state should take it into consideration but they don't, as we know the police tolerances differ from state to state.

Makes it hard but it is what it is.

Edited December 9, 2008 by madbung

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

nothing to do with police tolerance madbung..

simple fact of revenue rasing quota has increased.. i'm sure most cops arent bothered with ppl doin 10-15k's over (even though it is illegal) but when it comes to their jobs and the fact they are required to make certain quotas and get the govt more money..

[madbung]

Sorry Gimp, I should have put police radar/speed camera ect tolerances to make it a bit clearer.

I was quoting the allowable legal variation in their equipment and our speedos.

Sorry to confuse.

Edited December 9, 2008 by madbung