Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hi

Just wondering wether to get a DR30 or not.

Earlier in the year I bought a EVO VII for weekend fun and a bit of track work.

Basically it's boring.

Yes it's quick but there are somany electronic aids etc that any monkey could drive one quickly.

I've spent years in Skylines and owned nearly evey model (including Prince) and had a ball.

Years of learning how to extract the best from a car by learning car craft seems such a waste with the EVO's

Seems he with the bigest chequebook wins.

Really like the DR30's but missus is pushing for a convertible.

She loves her Audi but a convertible is just something different

Any suggestions?

PS anyone want an EVO? :(

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...VII&trecs=8

Edited by R34
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/248235-to-dr30-or-not-to-dr30/
Share on other sites

Having previously owned and tracked a Verision 6 STi and EVO IX I can attest to their capabilities on the track with very little modifications. I agree though after a while it becomes a little ho hum.

I also own a DR30 but as it is a minter I dont want to track it. Having driven it in a "spirited" fashion on the road I can tell you they are a real buzz BUT a real handful. The steering in them is imprecise, they are tailhappy and the motor is laggy.....or in other words the FUN bits are there if not ultimately the fast part.

I guess it comes down to whether you want to chase times or chase fun. If you chase fun you have the added bonus of having a car no one else will have on the track.

BTW my partner loves the DR but the fact she refers to it as the mistress probably is a good indication of how much I love it.

I would only swap it for a mint Aussie delivered R32 GTR but that is not going happen in the near future. As for my track aspirations my Mazda6 MPS is now getting some basic mods for a bit of fun. It will not be the fastest car at Wakefield but it will be something a little different to the EVO's, STi's etc

ciao

Hi

Just wondering wether to get a DR30 or not.

Earlier in the year I bought a EVO VII for weekend fun and a bit of track work.

Basically it's boring.

Yes it's quick but there are somany electronic aids etc that any monkey could drive one quickly.

I've spent years in Skylines and owned nearly evey model (including Prince) and had a ball.

Years of learning how to extract the best from a car by learning car craft seems such a waste with the EVO's

Seems he with the bigest chequebook wins.

Really like the DR30's but missus is pushing for a convertible.

She loves her Audi but a convertible is just something different

Any suggestions?

PS anyone want an EVO? :(

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...VII&trecs=8

Yeah I know what you mean.

Went in an evo event of 30 plus cars ...all evos and was bored silly.

Managed 15th fastest but was the only stock boost car there.

Everyone had Semi Slicks too.

Built an R30 years ago with R31 halfcut RB20DET...loved that car wish I still had it as it was a one off.

Even fitted the rack and pinion steering into the 30

Yeah I know what you mean.

Went in an evo event of 30 plus cars ...all evos and was bored silly.

Managed 15th fastest but was the only stock boost car there.

Everyone had Semi Slicks too.

Built an R30 years ago with R31 halfcut RB20DET...loved that car wish I still had it as it was a one off.

Even fitted the rack and pinion steering into the 30

What rack and pinion did you use for the r30?

How did it feel with the rack and pinion much better?

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Fs...sx-t234717.html This is the DR I would buy if I didnt have one allready, I think he's in WA aswell.

deffinatly fun cars though, I can vouch for that >_<

Having previously owned and tracked a Verision 6 STi and EVO IX I can attest to their capabilities on the track with very little modifications. I agree though after a while it becomes a little ho hum.

I also own a DR30 but as it is a minter I dont want to track it. Having driven it in a "spirited" fashion on the road I can tell you they are a real buzz BUT a real handful. The steering in them is imprecise, they are tailhappy and the motor is laggy.....or in other words the FUN bits are there if not ultimately the fast part.

I guess it comes down to whether you want to chase times or chase fun. If you chase fun you have the added bonus of having a car no one else will have on the track.

BTW my partner loves the DR but the fact she refers to it as the mistress probably is a good indication of how much I love it.

I would only swap it for a mint Aussie delivered R32 GTR but that is not going happen in the near future. As for my track aspirations my Mazda6 MPS is now getting some basic mods for a bit of fun. It will not be the fastest car at Wakefield but it will be something a little different to the EVO's, STi's etc

ciao

Couldn't have said it better myself...I currently own a 2002 wrx as well and bloody hell is it boring! Very easy to drive but boring lol!!!

Few mods and the DR's can be an enjoyable car very tail happy ewhen throwing them around but not outta control!

A few years ago I was competing in my 01 WRX.

One of the guys in the WRX club told me to buy back my old R30/31 Hybrid as he said he and his missus loved to wacth how sideways yet quick it was.

12 seasons of rallying taught this old bugger car control something that's not that important in a VII

You werent the only one with stock boost at the EVO day Chris, plus I had my shitty compliance tyres as well :) , mind u I only managed 20th but it was my first track event of any kind so I loved it. I seem to be going in the other direction to u it would seem, I've had my share of more savage/harsher (The DR, an FJ powered 1600 etc etc) cars and wanted something a bit more refined which would perform well straight out of the box, which I have got with my VII. I guess it's all what u want out of a car I suppose and it's intended purpose, while my DR is a ton of tail happy fun to drive it just wasn't practical as a regular driver with it's HD clutch and GT35/40-screamer etc. Whatever u decide to do I hope u continue to do some spirited driving as u have some real skills as opposed to the "cheque book" racers that where quite apparent at the EVO day.

Cheers, Vaughan.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Latest Posts

    • For once a good news  It needed to be adjusted by that one nut and it is ok  At least something was easy But thank you very much for help. But a small issue is now(gearbox) that when the car is stationary you can hear "clinking" from gearbox so some of the bearing is 100% not that happy... It goes away once you push clutch so it is 100% gearbox. Just if you know...what that bearing could be? It sounding like "spun bearing" but it is louder.
    • Yeah, that's fine**. But the numbers you came up with are just wrong. Try it for yourself. Put in any voltage from the possible range and see what result you get. You get nonsense. ** When I say "fine", I mean, it's still shit. The very simple linear formula (slope & intercept) is shit for a sensor with a non-linear response. This is the curve, from your data above. Look at the CURVE! It's only really linear between about 30 and 90 °C. And if you used only that range to define a curve, it would be great. But you would go more and more wrong as you went to higher temps. And that is why the slope & intercept found when you use 50 and 150 as the end points is so bad halfway between those points. The real curve is a long way below the linear curve which just zips straight between the end points, like this one. You could probably use the same slope and a lower intercept, to move that straight line down, and spread the error out. But you would 5-10°C off in a lot of places. You'd need to say what temperature range you really wanted to be most right - say, 100 to 130, and plop the line closest to teh real curve in that region, which would make it quite wrong down at the lower temperatures. Let me just say that HPTuners are not being realistic in only allowing for a simple linear curve. 
    • I feel I should re-iterate. The above picture is the only option available in the software and the blurb from HP Tuners I quoted earlier is the only way to add data to it and that's the description they offer as to how to figure it out. The only fields available is the blank box after (Input/ ) and the box right before = Output. Those are the only numbers that can be entered.
    • No, your formula is arse backwards. Mine is totally different to yours, and is the one I said was bang on at 50 and 150. I'll put your data into Excel (actually it already is, chart it and fit a linear fit to it, aiming to make it evenly wrong across the whole span. But not now. Other things to do first.
    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
×
×
  • Create New...