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Ok first of all my mods are : BELL mouth type dump/front pipe, full exh, fmic, iv'e changed the vacuum(/boost) point that the wastegate gets its air from a few times to various different areas , t-piece boost controller (dr drift) , gtr fuel pump, *central 20 ecu + safc when the boost spiking is fixed* and so on . Now iv'e tried different cat converters, exhausts , wastegate actuators , the std dump & front pipes , played with the timing . ive come to the conclusion that the turbo fitted to r33 (s2 by the way) is a piece of crap thats no better than china turbo's . i have the turbo off for the third time at the moment and i can't be f*kd putting it back on unless i know the problem is solved (the car has been sitting for 3 months because i'm sick of it).

ok heres my questions:

1.) Has anyone ever had the same problem using (brand name) bell mouth dump pipe?

2.) Does anyone have a solution for the problem

3.) If i were to put another turbo on it , what would be the closest to stock/handle (make) around the 200rwk mark (must be bolt on) , i know r34/vg30 turbo's are a very slight upgrade but do they have the same problem?

4.) Is there anything i might be missing or any other suggestions you may have?

The reason i'm only looking for ~200rwk is because it's (or was) my daily and i only really wanted to do the basic mods , and keep it drivable for the missus :)

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Hey man. im in a similar boat. I think its my actuator tho. but it doesnt spike/creep by much.. only 3-4psi if that.

Have you tried a diff boost tap? or an ebc? How bad are the spikes?

When did it start spiking??

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ulimategtr: i'd be happy with only 3-4 psi ;) , i held it out to see if it stabilised at any time but i got to 5.8-6k and it had reached around 16 psi in 3rd and decided to never do that again :D

joey: yep tried a avcr on it

mbs206: the wastegate is missing the dump , i machined it out a little just to be on the safe side , i've tried running the vacuum line straight to the wastegate (actually thats how it was just before i pulled the turbo off) but it still boost spiked the same :P

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is the dillemma im having the same as yours?

i just started a post bout a similar prob but dunno if its the same thing as yours

mmm almost wonder if its a knock sensor going on the fritz

if it reads out of line and measures a phantom knock then it might give the ecu a faulty reading

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If it still spikes even with the boost line going straight from the hotpipe to the actuator using a very short piece of hose (the combo least likely to spike), then I would be checking the preload on the wastegate. Sounds like U have too much. If it isn't adjustable, U might need to do some cutting and welding.

Can U blow in the actuator boost line without the actuator leaking? Does the rod go straight out of the actuator (not on an angle)?

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Was going to say I have a spare T-boost controller you can lend to test Toffy, but sounds like its something with the wastegate (which you would already have known)

Actually I have a blown turbo if you want to test that actuator off there?

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If you have tried everything including going to stock dump pipe etc id say there is an Actuator problem too.

See if you can get another one somewhere.

I tried a million different things to fix my spiking. In the end it was the shit split dump. Gone to an R32 Actuator and wont ever look back.

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If it still spikes even with the boost line going straight from the hotpipe to the actuator using a very short piece of hose (the combo least likely to spike), then I would be checking the preload on the wastegate. Sounds like U have too much. If it isn't adjustable, U might need to do some cutting and welding.

Can U blow in the actuator boost line without the actuator leaking? Does the rod go straight out of the actuator (not on an angle)?

where i found it to hold boost (keep a steady boost before spiking) the best was pretty much where the facory outlet would be for the vac, line its a stock turbo on what was a untouched car before i bought it , the rod goes out of the actuator perfectly straight and both actuators iv'e tried held pressure fine (i have a little air pressure thingy that restricts air pressure out of my compressor to 5-15 psi (adjustable , its home made from an old paint gun a tyre pressure guage and stuff i had lying around my work :( )

Was going to say I have a spare T-boost controller you can lend to test Toffy, but sounds like its something with the wastegate (which you would already have known)

Actually I have a blown turbo if you want to test that actuator off there?

thanks for the offer mate , but i've tried a different actuator already :down:

If you have tried everything including going to stock dump pipe etc id say there is an Actuator problem too.

See if you can get another one somewhere.

I tried a million different things to fix my spiking. In the end it was the shit split dump. Gone to an R32 Actuator and wont ever look back.

i've tried stock dump/front pipe and actuator , stock cat, gutted cat , straight 3in pipe , 3? different positions for the vac line ,different exh (including std) , checked timing , cleaned turbo out with petrol/kero , ebc, t-piece, factory boost control, straight to actuator , 2 diffrent intercoolers (including different piping) and the list goes on :) im not sure of the fuel pressure but the base fuel pressure is within factory average (it has a walbro fp, i dunno if it should be higher?)

another thing i noticed that i keep forgetting to mention is that it gets full boost from pretty low rpm , im a little vague because its been a while since iv'e driven it , but it was around 1750-2200rpm-ish (in second or third) , it holds it perfect up until just a lil over 4000rpm

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