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MOD's RE: Not Gettin Defect....... READ THIS PEOPLE I THINK I HAVE A POINT

MADGT4

By MADGT4,
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MADGT4

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Ok Now correct me if i'm wrong but its perfectly ok for People with crappy commie's etc (no offence to the decnet ones out there u get my respect) are allowed to bolt on HSV or wot eva MOD's and its perfectly all ok and no defect shall be issued....

Now i know this shit is expensive BUT if we all had NISMO parts on our cars then is that all ok and shall we be let off and get away with it all?

I just wanna know that cos i mean it maybe worth buying SOME NISMO parts or trying to afford it so the police stay off our backs!

Wot u think ppl?

Rob Collaborator

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I would think is more to do with ADR's then brand name.

I think the problem could be some Japanese parts don't meet ADR's , but HSV parts are designed around ADR's so there are no issues.

I may be wrong , but this is my thoughts on the issue.

If this is true then you would be better off buying Aussie parts (eg Whiteline suspension) where possible.

GFXman Experienced

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Well HSV is a car manufacturer. It's not like they are just a tuning shop. HSV is a HSV - its not a holden with mods. As far as i know, Holden aren't even associated with HSV.

So that means HSV would have to comply with whatever guidelines are in place to car manufacturers when building cars. They would have to get approval before being able to release it etc.

I get your point MadGT4, but you really can't compare a HSV to someone's import they have modded themselves (or even at a tuning shop for that matter).

Maybe if Nissan released actual NISMO tuned cars that you could buy from Nissan Australia, that would be a comparison.

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Bl4cK32 Grand Master

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I don't wanna start a whole new thread here, but you can't say that a HSV isn't a Holden with just mods. It is a holden till HSV get it then mod the F*k out of it to suit their own purpose. HSV dont manufacture the whole car as well....I do agree that they are a separate company though

GFXman Experienced

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Oh yeah fully, that IS all they do - I agree completely.

However, when you buy a HSV, you aren't buying a holden. You're buying a HSV.

But the whole modifying thing can be justified as they are complying to guidelines...

That's my view anyway. I'm don't necessarily agree that they should be able to do it and tuning shops not. But based on the first post asking if imports should be able to escape defects by using official NISMO parts - that's not really the point. The point is the way it's carried out. Ofiicial modifed cars by actual car companies as opposed to self modified cars with official parts.

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Bl4cK32 Grand Master

Bl4cK32

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"However, when you buy a HSV, you aren't buying a holden. You're buying a HSV"

Yes you are - a Holden Special Vehicle. :D Agree with u on the modified parts too.

Someone should open a shop here in Adelaide that would mod your car with compliance.....

chops Experienced

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I agree with Rob, it is to do with the fact that these things are designed to meet ADRs, and the cops know it, rather than your modded import, which MAY WELL meet the regulations, but they assume they don't until you can prove otherwise.

It's like those CAPA blowers and the like - massive performance increases, but the kits are designed to meet Australian emission specs, so the cops don't tend to look at them too hard.

CSV may have been a better example than HSV for the other guys too, cos they are both a car manufacturer and a "tuning shop". They will build you a car, or do yours, but they have to ensure everything meets those lovely design specs again.

I'm not sure to what lengths you can go to getting your modified import certified as meeting all specs, and it would probably be costly, but it could be worth a look, then at least you would know what you were driving was legal, and could have some evidence to back it up - knowing that if they were a prick and defected you anyway, that you could simply get it easily removed with a trip to the RTA.

hippy Grand Master

hippy

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its like them commies u see around that are badged as GTR LOL ... and they are just a totally stock commie with a kit ... mags .. lowered ... LOL ... commies get bought out by some company and they do it up and badge it as a GTR commie ... :D

Steve Grand Master

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Originally posted by MADGT4

Ok Now correct me if i'm wrong but its perfectly ok for People with crappy commie's etc (no offence to the decnet ones out there u get my respect) are allowed to bolt on HSV or wot eva MOD's and its perfectly all ok and no defect shall be issued....

Now i know this shit is expensive BUT if we all had NISMO parts on our cars then is that all ok and shall we be let off and get away with it all?

I just wanna know that cos i mean it maybe worth buying SOME NISMO parts or trying to afford it so the police stay off our backs!

Wot u think ppl?

To be quite honest I think it will make bugger all difference.

Whatsisname got told to take his momo steering wheel off and they are ADR compliant - this was at a VIS.

the costs to get a car engineer certified for compliance here is astronomical here, starts at $1500 before any emissions tests, in NSW it is only a few hundred dollars and they have free emissions testing - about time these anal retentive pricks sorted their shit and started realising that people are going to mod cars,and if they make it impossible to get the mods approved, people are just going to drive in cars that arent approved

Sort of defeats the purpose of having the rules there when they make it almost impossible for the average person to meet the requirements.

I think the only way to get these pricks off our backs is to have a mass park in on king william street during peak hour - couple of hundred modded cars refusing to move cos they are sick of the apparent discriminatory treatment;)

hahaha - if only.

adznight Newbie

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Yar, as said earlier it comes down to ADR. If it doesn't meet ADR then don't bother it's as simple as that. Sad but true! All these companies build these cars to comply to these standards which is such a wank when you look at things like the new Ford GT with 290kw stock. Thats more powerfull than a lot of modded GTS-T's etc. that I know of and there doesn't seem to be a problem there. It doesn't matter what car your driving the way I see it, ADR or no ADR power is power! It's such Bull Sh#t! :P

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