Buying A Gtr?

[eeiko321]

well ive owned a 1997 tt supra.....

an d if your talking about RELIABILITY..............................EVERYONE knows TOYOTA is the kings.....

e.g the Toyota 1987 Hilux that top gear beat up....2million km on the clock.......droped it into the sea......hit it with a demolition ball....drove it down the stairs and dropped it off a 30 storey building.....

and they got it started with basic hand tools from the glove box.....

and also im sure every car enthusiasts KNOWS that the supra GETRAG 6 speed is BULLET PROOF........ alot of worked v8s have that box installed.........

theres 9 sec supras modified in japan that have blown the diffs but nothing has happend to the standard 6 speed gearbox.

[eeiko321]

Supra TT's are pretty nice if they are nice and clean... but most of them have horrible kits, yellow headlights, really bad rims.... I looked on carsales the other day just out of interest and they only ones i likes were VERY expensive... but they were very late model and low k's so I guess thats fair enough. But one of them left stock will be very reliable, the 2JZ is one of the most over engineered engines ever built.

However, if you are leaving stock the GTR would be very good also and stock for stock would be more fun to drive i think you will find. I would just keep your options open. Just focus on a clean example weather it be GTR or Supra...

i agree...

the 2JZ is amongst one of the BEST 6cyl ever built in the history of the history of automotives.

ive actually read an intresteing articles of Supras Vs GTR written by the Editor of High Performance Imports....

the Supra is said to have a better motor......and "BETTER" as in reliability wise and getting more power with less mods than the RB26DETT

and i recall from what a mechanic told me......."i hate toyotas!.......becoz i never make any money out of them.....coz they never go wrong!"

i must say...the supra is alot more RESPONSIVE to modifications & the reliability is beyond! but the GT-R does have a better name in the Motor world.....

ill go and find it and ill keep you guys posted.....

[mxfly]

I still wouldnt buy a Supra.

[ras1983]

^^ Yes I remember that article. There are a couple of scans on the internet. There was another article that compared the 2JZ to the RB26 and they preferred the 2JZ by far.

[eeiko321]

anyhow, here is the Caption from High Performance Import Magazine..

""...its possible for some of the best peddlers to hustle a 6-speed Supra down the strip in 13-second bracket. bump up the boost, free up the inlet & exhaust and 12s are quite acheivable.

in the US, supras with the stock sequential turbochargers have dipped into the 11s (albeit with stripped interiors and slick tires). This is sensational for any production car, but at this stage only lineball with the sort of response that could be expected from a GT-R with the same mods.

When the turbochargers get bigger, and the times start to move onto the jaw-dropping side of serious, its the 2JZ that makes the cudgels, you see its quite possible, with the correct tuning, to turn upwards of 800hp through these engines withought any major component concerns. Where the GT-R engine will start to distroy pistons, damage valves and break rod bolts, the 2JZ will soldier on. The key to this other than a better basic level of design from the factory, is in the additional capacity and bore/stroke ratio of the 2JZ engine.

Where the GT-R is terrifically oversquare, requiring 9000rpm plus to make its best power, the supra needs a little beyond 7000rpm to show its worth. Being totally 'square' design, there is ample torque generated at low rpm; enough to leave most equally weighted GT-R floundering in the proverbial wake under normal cut and thrust traffic conditions.

A good comparison was a tuning job we undertook recently, with a Trust T78-equipped 2JZ making 340KW (456hp) at the wheels with just 1.1bar boost and 7000rpm. compare that to the GT-R we dynoed on the same day, with twin HKS2540 turbos it needed 2.0bar of boost and 8800rpm to make 345KW at the wheels......"

in saying that..... the american spec supra , is actually alot quicker than the jap spec or the jap export model, with the slightly larger turbochargers & steel turbine wheels & minor adjustments to the engine.

Edited January 23, 2009 by eeiko321

[_Ryan_]

supra- torque and more bullet-proof

[r32line]

They are 2 pretty different cars, but you need to know what you want out of the car both now and down the track first.

If you are buying stock and leaving stock then i really think you cannot go past the GTR.

Supra's can be modded to make HUGE power but they are also rwd and at the end of the day if you can't put the power down until you are doing like 140km/h then you need to work out if that is for you...

From the original post I think the GTR would be the most appropriate choice if you can find a nice one (which is no easy task).

[eeiko321]

They are 2 pretty different cars, but you need to know what you want out of the car both now and down the track first.

If you are buying stock and leaving stock then i really think you cannot go past the GTR.

Supra's can be modded to make HUGE power but they are also rwd and at the end of the day if you can't put the power down until you are doing like 140km/h then you need to work out if that is for you...

From the original post I think the GTR would be the most appropriate choice if you can find a nice one (which is no easy task).

it depends on his taste in design as well...

the supra has a really nice cockpit-feel interior/dashboard. which is so much better than R32 and R33 GTR interior....

but R34 GT-R above all.......... in saying that.....The year/era of the R34 is different to the Supra.

where as the R34 for e.g styling of interior looks and feels very simillar to the 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX..since it was built around the same era.

and 350zs interior for another e.g ...the styling is very simillar to recent cars.

[sneakey pete]

There's more to a car than just an engine you know

Grip, weight distribution, looks, ride and many other things all come into it.

Edited January 24, 2009 by sneakey pete

[eeiko321]

There's more to a car than just an engine you know

Grip, weight distribution, looks, ride and many other things all come into it.

of course....

but the3 supras gearbox and engine is reknowned for bullet proof capabilities....so im guessing you didnt BOTHER reading that article ive posted

its also explaining the modification with power

[sneakey pete]

Yes, is a powerful engine, but considering the guy wants it for a daily driver, i don't think he's going to give a rat's arse if i can make 1200hp or not.

[Shmee33]

yesterday i went for a drive in the r33 gtr, i was most impressed by its reliablity from its power to its brakes, nissan didnt stinge on it eather.

The guy who was selling the one im maybe buying has taken real good care of it and i was amazed.

At the moment i have the gtst version and just to get mine looking and going like the gtr its gonna cost alot, so i might go check out the tt supra and take it for a drive.

im still contemplating on making it an everyday driver....

thanks for the replys guys, helped alot

[eeiko321]

yesterday i went for a drive in the r33 gtr, i was most impressed by its reliablity from its power to its brakes, nissan didnt stinge on it eather.

The guy who was selling the one im maybe buying has taken real good care of it and i was amazed.

At the moment i have the gtst version and just to get mine looking and going like the gtr its gonna cost alot, so i might go check out the tt supra and take it for a drive.

im still contemplating on making it an everyday driver....

thanks for the replys guys, helped alot

well if you are thinking about Braking....

watch the trailer on you tube for "Top Gear Toyota Supra"

i recal when they were testing it.......at the time the best braking in the world was the BMW M5...and the supra was actually not far from it....

or something along those lines, i recon u should watch that video since you may be intrested in one.

both cars are great..i dont like how people here look down to the supra just because this is a GT-R forum etc.

but as i mentioned to all tuners, the 2jz is actually alot better engineered than the Rb26.

but if you look at it in another view, the supra is more common than the GTR...

because the GTR is simply a GT-R....we all know its Godzilla.. (but you may get some fags with GTS-Ts whom put GTR badges & GTR kits) but with the supra..you got alot of Non-turbo ones running around. and beleive it or not..there are alot more supra N/A then there is TT..

see how you go and let us know what you decide on..

[Juan]

i reckon the supra will make a better everyday car,

but the GTR has greater road presence.

[eeiko321]

i reckon the supra will make a better everyday car,

but the GTR has greater road presence.

yes like i said, the GT-R has a reputation in the motor industry....and in aust, its the monster whom ate Bathurst for breakfast....

the good thing about the GT-R is........its a GT-R......everything about it.... there is no mistake for its identity. Even if fags mock the GT-R with GTS-ts etc....you can always tell by the wider guards, different bonnet & blinkers etc.

but as for the supra, the downside is that the Turbo model & the N/A is virtually Identical from the exterior as well as the interior.

the N/A really gives it a bad reputation...

[Shmee33]

eeiko321 your right about the gtr with it being unique, the supra can be a "mock" but there very nice cars.

this is a real hard decision for me even though i havent driven the supra yet.

i have driven 2 non turbo supras and they seem fine.

well ill get back to this post on sat for when i test the supra.

thanks alex

[eeiko321]

eeiko321 your right about the gtr with it being unique, the supra can be a "mock" but there very nice cars.

this is a real hard decision for me even though i havent driven the supra yet.

i have driven 2 non turbo supras and they seem fine.

well ill get back to this post on sat for when i test the supra.

thanks alex

i highly recommend you test driving a twin turbo supra.

seriously...

the non-turbo is a real dissapointment.....its slower than the 200sx and the wrx.....

where as the twin turbo is quicker than both those cars.

u wont be dissapointed...

let us know how you go