New Road Safety Minister

[Rocky88]

f**k crushing cars, put him in the vice and crush him instead

that's the REAL way to get idiots off the street

-D

lol +1 

cmon people vote in the poll

[Madaz]

so really there's hope for me yet to be a polly

[rhys5169]

he should in all seriousness be in jail, its people like him that cost lives on our roads. he is an innatentive driver who creeps and sometimes excessively speeds over the set road limit.

how the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck does he still have a licence! rann gov cover up

[Rocky88]

so really there's hope for me yet to be a polly

well losers like him can become nothing but cab drivers or pollies... maybe cops

[medman2damax]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha,what a dick.branding us hoons,hes had more offences than alot of us put together.what a smelly,smelly dick

+1 LMAOnade on the house.

What a tool-face-bitch-wad

It would be alright if he had that kind of record and that position (hear me out) and made life EASIER for the rest of us, but if he's preachin then someone please take to him with a rolling pin. a dirty one.

[SLED]

how can you only lose license 1 time after being caught speeding 27 times and running red light 3 times? I bet he lost it more than 1 time.. i seriously cant think of single person with driving record that bad.

Easy, back in the day you could have 30 traffic convictions in a row and not lose 1 demerit point (or your license), yet demereit points have been around for as long as I've been driving........and that's a very long time.

I have a different take on this, and don't get me wrong, I want this guy out too but only because he's against us having a drag strip, not because of his record.

I'd like to know how long ago these offenses were committed cause I believe he outted himself with this info.

If they were very recent offences, then throw the book at him and show him the exit door.

If on the other hand these offenses were committed a long time ago and he has shown reform since then, then everybody (including us) has to be given a chance to turn from their ways.

There's alot of shit that I used to do to people years ago that I regret today......hence why I strongly defend the underdog these days and why I might come down very hard on peeps ganging up on anyone here.

If Koutsantonis committed this stuff along time ago and has had a clean record since, he may actually be in the best position as a Road Safety Minister.......but not if there are recent blemishes..........and having said that, we need a drag strip and this dude is against it.

[Rocky88]

I'd like to know how long ago these offenses were committed cause I believe he outted himself with this info.

since he was in his 20's up to less than a year ago, when he ran a red light

[heslo]

17 of the offences are from 2002 onwards Pete

[Dohmar]

17 of the offences are from 2002 onwards Pete

with 2 of them happening last year, and he has $900 worth of fines outstanding

-D

[Tangles]

what a two faced liar

I havent had a traffic infringment in a decade now, and here is a preaching-polly sitting on his high horse but yet is as guilty as sin.

show him the door IMHO.

[TALBO]

What year did the law change to allow for points loss on camera offenses? There was a long period of time where you could get done by a camera and never lose a point.

[SLED]

since he was in his 20's up to less than a year ago, when he ran a red light

17 of the offences are from 2002 onwards Pete

with 2 of them happening last year, and he has $900 worth of fines outstanding

OK, next question....how long has he been in charge of his current portfolio?

[Dohmar]

OK, next question....how long has he been in charge of his current portfolio?

Since March this year - no offences committed since. however it does raise serious questions about how mike rann overlooked his history - unless of course it wasnt requested or not voluntarily provided... still... what an idiot.. i still think that crushing him is the best option

-D

[heslo]

Yes, March this year, however it's only been a month, hardly time to prove oneself

[SLED]

well apparently mike Rann knew nothing of his shady past so you have to question their investigative abilities!

Pollies usually out their shady pasts for one of two reasons:

1). They've had a revelation of their wrong doings and are ready to pay penance

or

2). Someone was hot on his trail and about to out him to the media so he thought he'd get in 1st and do what the Yanks did with the Russian's......beat them to the moon

[D_Stirls]

there's something fishy about that poll. i voted 20 minutes ago and there was only 238 vote for him to get a second chance 32% of the total vote now there's over 1000 votes for him to keep his job and it's in the 60's% percentage wise.

[Madaz]

yeah its coded wrong so if you hit top one then click vote they made the 2nd question run over the vote now and you actually swap your vote and because it doesn't refresh the page you then click vote now again and now you just voted for him to keep his job very cunning

[D_Stirls]

i actually think that the results have been edited because there were 650 votes in a number of hours then in 20 minutes there were over 1200

Edited April 19, 2009 by D_Stirls

[MYCEF3]

Its all a load of *im a h4x0R trying to look kool by swearing*in sh!t. If you have a criminal record u cant get into the forces. SO why does he get away with it if he is goin to be the traffic b!tch???

The government is corrupt

*They get away with all the sh!t

*If something on their side happens... it gets pushed away

*All blame is on the public.... Never the government

PLUS old drivers cant drive for shit... Sooooo many of them are driving all over the road as if they were on the piss, merging with out looking, 40km/h under the limit or even brake last minute infront or behind resulting in an accident.

[Dohmar]

Its all a load of *im a h4x0R trying to look kool by swearing*in sh!t. If you have a criminal record u cant get into the forces. SO why does he get away with it if he is goin to be the traffic b!tch???

Whoa there soldier

For everyones information, traffic offences are not criminal unless they involved death (in which case they would be charged with an actual criminal offence)

Road traffic offences such as red lights and speeding etc do not get classified as 'Criminal'. They are civil offences, which mean traditionally that there is no jail time associated with the maximum penalty - this has changed over time but the classification has remained the same. When you get a police report or criminal record check, they only check stuff like Murder, Rape, Assault etc - nothing to do with driving ever comes into it. So if you've been >convicted< of DUI then you're not technically a criminal. I'm not sure how the law classifies high range speeding fines or drug driving, but I suspect they would come under the general automotive law - rule of thumb is you're not up for criminal offences unless you hit a person.

-D