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Originally posted by Roy

Cant agree with that comment...ive heard a few stock M3s being driven hard and they sound like crappy Corollas with stock exhausts.  

That's the thing. Standing on the road, the exhaust sounds really, REALLY metallicy, and doesn't sound like the engine is too happy - but once u jump in the drivers seat, and rev it out to the redline..... u'll understand why ppl talk about the engine note of the M3 :)

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Good to see some of the stupid comments stayed in the early parts of the thread. No need to bring SAU down to the level of some of the less intelligent forums around. If we were all enthusiasts of the same car it would be fairly boring. I mean maybe a seemingly large amount of commodore drivers are reckless because of how bloody cheap they are to buy and fix (the older ones anyway).

The monaro 4wd doesnt look right to me. The flared guards and odd looking front bar just dont do it for me. I think maybe its because the standard Monaro is such a good looking car, there isnt much you can do to improve it, HSV hasnt been able to in my opinion. Its always good to see a new car with the very powerful 4wd combo. Aussie cars have come along way in the last 10 years. XR6T, new 285kw club sport, gts300, a 290kw falcon! 10 years ago ford didnt even have a V8. Still give me a GTR any day.

Onto one of the ultimate typre v8 2 doors the SL55. Working for Mercedes i have driven a fair few of them now and every time i do i still smile and crap myself all at the same time. An absolutely unbelievable car. Any car that can get to 100 in 4.7 with the roof down and claim to be the fastest production car in the world to get to 300ks can park itself proudly next to the skyline. Then again for $400,000 (by the time its on the road) would you want any less. I find it very hard to justify spending that sort of money on a car. Not saying i wouldnt though if i was filthy rich.. :)

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Hey I just thought of something that HSV should do next.......AWD turbo Astra. Dont tell me you wouldnt like to see one of them on the rally scene. with the price bracket it would fall into it could acctually be a nice rival to the rex. now if only I worked for holden they could pay me money to come up with this stuff (even though im sure someone has already said it :b )

EDIT: As per Lozza's suggestion copyright 2003 =P give me money! and a free sample car :)

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Originally posted by Sonic

Warpspeed, i posted this before. The AWD system is based on ATTESSA but takes some comprimises into account (as the car's not as hardcore as the GT-R)

Based on ATESSA? Not even remotely. Holdens system is lift straight from the GM parts bin with electronics, at least, being from a Hummer H2.

It comprises of two open diffs, front and rear, with a transfer case adjacent to the gear box. Front rear split is mechanically fixed at 38% front and 62% rear. They direct torque between the wheels by braking the wheel that has too much torque. Its an ugly system but it does make it easy to change the setup between cars by reprogramming the electronics controling braking. Which is pretty much what they did when they transfered the system from the Adventra to the Monaro.

Everyone seems to have forgotten these cars are only coming in 4 speed autos for now. Performance cars they ain't.

Warpspeed Experienced

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Car companies are run by the bean counters these days, not by young engineers with a vision. Also the economic situation is looking very bleak indeed, especially in the car industry.

I believe they will come up with a 4WD system that will generate public interest and hopefully a greater market share. But they will try to keep costs to an absolute minimum. That is why I expect a basic solution, not a high tech solution.

And I will also like to bet it is marketed as a safety feature for the family man that does not want to drive a two ton SUV truck.

The twenty year old hoons will all lust after a 300Kw 4WD Monaro, but the reality is that the people buying them will be wealthy middle aged yuppies that only want to pose in them.

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i know a few holden guys so i will ask them what their 4wd is based on.

instead of paying 95k for a 4wd monaro, just buy a 60k adventera... only difference when driving is it feels 6" higher, bit more body roll and seats are softer. Other than that the interior is almost identical, and feels just as slow.

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