skins Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I thinnk the reason people lost interest after the first show is because they saw that they weren't even trying to make it slightly australian. They just copied it all, word for word. Even had hosts who looked the same. Tall one, short one and one with long hair. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4696427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent32 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Alot of ozzies are rev heads so here has got to be a big audience out there if a decent local show was made, but when you so blatantly copy TGUK and you only have one hundreth the budget its bound to come out looking like a poor copy of the real thing. I think maybe we should just be happy with some of the lower budget grassroots style coverage of local motorsport and car modifying scene created by real enthusiasts. Couldn t Sau help TGA out with a feature on some oz skylines, Im sure there is plenty of people on here who would love to have a person with the IQ of a goldfish attempt to drift their pride and joy into a tree while complaining about the lack of new car smell and excessive value for money of buying an imported car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Alot of ozzies are rev heads so here has got to be a big audience out there if a decent local show was made, but when you so blatantly copy TGUK and you only have one hundreth the budget its bound to come out looking like a poor copy of the real thing.I think maybe we should just be happy with some of the lower budget grassroots style coverage of local motorsport and car modifying scene created by real enthusiasts. Couldn t Sau help TGA out with a feature on some oz skylines, Im sure there is plenty of people on here who would love to have a person with the IQ of a goldfish attempt to drift their pride and joy into a tree while complaining about the lack of new car smell and excessive value for money of buying an imported car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixel8r Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I think the falling ratings were always going to happen no matter which host. The honeynoon & novelty is well and truely over. Time for some new schtick! But the nature of the TG "franchise" perhaps means they are stuck where they are. To be frank it looks like a repackaged "Hey Hey It's Saturday" pretending to be a car show (playing soccer with cars, drag racing jet planes etc etc) have they dressed up as women yet, does it have plukka duck? Even the UK show suffers from this variety show disease. Anyway i guess they need to cater to non-car people for ratings, especially in our tiny market. Car people think it's lame, non-car people quickly lose interest. I actually like the way the UK show mixes it up a little. My least favourite segment is the "star in a reasonably priced car" thing. What a waste of show time. One thing I dont want to see on TGA is any coverage of skylines etc just because of the already "hoonish" reputation they have in australia. Any review on TGA of any import is never going to be fair or unbiased. Even the now-legendary GTR only gets a mere 5 minutes on there if its lucky...compared to 30 mins for a 30+ year old falcon thats hardly quicker than a proton satria. Dont get me wrong - this fits perfectly for most of the australian audience... Not that I expect any tv presenter to be strictly unbiased, but in australia, the car scene is so narrow-minded that it'd be difficult for them to do a show that was anything but ford & holden... They have to please the fans no matter what, and the facts are that the vast majority of their viewers are ford/holden fans...so their hands are tied to a certain degree. Thankfully the UK show is back on for now...but if we want the latest episodes we will still need to head to youtube... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo_R35 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 One thing we really care about here in Australia is the new versus old. We always quote improvements from one model to the next. A great series would be side by side comparisons of cars as they have improved...then throw in the wild card. Eg R32, R33, R34 then the R35, have the 0-100, the 1/4 mile and then a hot lap. You could do the same with the HSV GTS Cars...but throw in a CSV car also to mix it up. Ford could do their V8 mosters but throw in the F6 as the future of ford. M3's from BMW but throw in the 335 as a wild card. At the end of the series you have the best from each Marque in a shoot out. HSV, FORD, BMW, MERC etc etc. Top 10 in a shoot out. Like Wheels performance car of the year...but live (Even include a Joe average as one of the drivers in say the 0 - 100). This could be one segment. That would get the fans from all brands watching...for bragging rights. You want it done all at the same time in identical conditions, not on some witches hat track done over a 5 month period. I also would like to see a "scientific" episodes... like effects of drink driving. Get a bomb of a car, full cage etc and then do a series of motor khana tests including slalom, a set track etc. See how times decrease with progressive comsumption of alcohol. You get the laugh of the driver plus the progression of getting pissed. You could also do the generation game, instead of celebrities you have P plater, 20's, 30's 40's 50's 60's etc....and you run them through a series of driving tests including skid pan, track work, 0-100 etc etc. Once again all at the same time, actually competing. They need to add something different....maybe these would be a start. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33cruiser Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) brent 32 has a good point. from the 1st episode this season i have beem embarrassed. People around the world will see this somehow, and that is embarrassing. Everytime a car is kicked out, they blab on about drifting. everytime they say drift, it sounds corny and childish :S. also...attempting to drift a classic ford = FAIL. cant wait till they air the new TGUK season ps, the tguk R35 GTR story was much better overall Edited July 6, 2009 by r33cruiser Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godcla Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) brent 32 has a good point.from the 1st episode this season i have beem embarrassed. People around the world will see this somehow, and that is embarrassing. Everytime a car is kicked out, they blab on about drifting. everytime they say drift, it sounds corny and childish :S. also...attempting to drift a classic ford = FAIL. cant wait till they air the new TGUK season ps, the tguk R35 GTR story was much better overall If you can't wait just download UK TG & 5thGear from below site...... http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/13/1/ PS: and if you have nothing better to do even Oz TG can be downloaded from the same site.... Edited July 6, 2009 by Godcla Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 query; who here wants to start their own drive show Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4698392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixel8r Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 One thing we really care about here in Australia is the new versus old. We always quote improvements from one model to the next. A great series would be side by side comparisons of cars as they have improved...then throw in the wild card.Eg R32, R33, R34 then the R35, have the 0-100, the 1/4 mile and then a hot lap. You could do the same with the HSV GTS Cars...but throw in a CSV car also to mix it up. Ford could do their V8 mosters but throw in the F6 as the future of ford. M3's from BMW but throw in the 335 as a wild card. At the end of the series you have the best from each Marque in a shoot out. HSV, FORD, BMW, MERC etc etc. Top 10 in a shoot out. Like Wheels performance car of the year...but live (Even include a Joe average as one of the drivers in say the 0 - 100). This could be one segment. That would get the fans from all brands watching...for bragging rights. You want it done all at the same time in identical conditions, not on some witches hat track done over a 5 month period. I also would like to see a "scientific" episodes... like effects of drink driving. Get a bomb of a car, full cage etc and then do a series of motor khana tests including slalom, a set track etc. See how times decrease with progressive comsumption of alcohol. You get the laugh of the driver plus the progression of getting pissed. You could also do the generation game, instead of celebrities you have P plater, 20's, 30's 40's 50's 60's etc....and you run them through a series of driving tests including skid pan, track work, 0-100 etc etc. Once again all at the same time, actually competing. They need to add something different....maybe these would be a start. those are all fantastic ideas. maybe you need to get some copyrights and go speak to some TGA execs I would definitely watch stuff like that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4701610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 If they did stuff like that. I'd give it one more shot but then if it still sucked then i'd have to sell my tv. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/274859-top-gear-oz/page/5/#findComment-4701861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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