Jump to content
SAU Community

Return & R34 Gtr A Cautionary Tail.

COPYME AGAIN

By COPYME AGAIN,
in South Australia

 Share

Recommended Posts

rad100 Grand Master

rad100

Posted
Posted

can someone pm me said workshop and guy who did it? i think i have an idea but dammed if i can put a finger on it!

unlucky to hear mate.. hope all is working in your favour now!!

  • Replies 59
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Posted Images

COPYME AGAIN Rookie

COPYME AGAIN

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
wow, hard luck story right there, definately sucks to hear. Unfortunately scum like this bloke continue to operate in all industries of our fair country.

glad to hear its all sorted now :D

btw, its "paid", not "paided" :P

PS, could you shoot me a pm with the businesses and mechanics name? thanks ;)

Yes my spelling was off was more concerned to make my typings coherent FAIL :D

can someone pm me said workshop and guy who did it? i think i have an idea but dammed if i can put a finger on it!

unlucky to hear mate.. hope all is working in your favour now!!

I will PM however, I wish to avoid any possible negative impact to innocent parties. I'll just point out that I have the up most respect for Marks workshop, I have never heard of anything but positive feedback in regard to any work completed there.

The mechanic has not worked there for several years and any works he completed while there I'am led to believe were to Marks very high standard. If I need anything done in SA I will be taking my car there and recommend others to do the same.

Edited by COPYME AGAIN
SLED Grand Master

SLED

Posted
Posted

Haha, saved your bacon with that last sentence bud......sorry to hear of the heartache and pain to the hip pocket.......unfortunatly a comfortable living and young age aren't always a good mix......wisdom tends to come later.

and a big here here to presumptions about people's expendable income.

32godzilla Proficient

32godzilla

Posted
Posted

I remember seeing COPYME in Hindley St once - with P plates... and thinking WTF lucky bastard!! Well maybe you weren't that lucky after all, very interesting read and would certainly make me think twice if I ever wanted to spend big dollars on my car.

Dohmar Grand Master

Dohmar

Posted
Posted
Wow, that's some seriously scary shit...totally agree with Pete's observations on the matter too.

I dunno about you guys, but if some scumbag fobbed me off with cheaper parts that I know I'd paid for, I'd be hunting the son of a bitch down...

At the very least you should go to the police and report him for fraud/misrepresentation and ask that they spread the details to all states and request an arrest warrant when he touches back in Aus.

He can run, but he can't hide.

-D

Dohmar Grand Master

Dohmar

Posted
Posted
cops won't touch it Ben.

Civil matter therefore they'll tell you to take him to court yourself

Any transaction which results in a loss of capital regardless of source involves the police on the fundamental basis of misrepresentation

I have a case against a dickhead in NSW who was supposed to supply me with an SSD for my eee 901. Its taken 2 months to progress from SAPOL to NSW police, but progress is being made.

Cops will touch it, however your success rate depends on a load of things - I would have preferred to attack via the accc/consumer affairs but since the guy running the website doesnt advertise services in nsw, the nsw ombudsman cant do a damn thing.

Consumer affairs are largely castrated when it comes to matters of the internet, thats why they refer it to the local police under the statute of cybercrime. local divisions report it to cid in the city who then run prelim investigation and then forward on to the local authorities

i doubt i'll see my money back, but if i can get the bugger fined, or his website taken off the net then I'll be happy.

And yes, I am a vindictive pos.

-D

SLED Grand Master

SLED

Posted
Posted

yeah goodluck with that Ben but at the end of the day, it's still a civil matter and cops will do bugger all for you.

Only way you'll see any retribution is by personal summons bud (and hope he shows up), then hash it out before a Magistrate.

If he doesn't show up by the way, the Magistrate will more than likely rule against him, but even then you still have to get the dosh from him.

It'll end up costing you more time and money than it's worth.......and you'll probably have to travel interstate to get him before the Magistrate.

silver zed Explorer

silver zed

Posted
Posted

i think you spend 180k on a car youre already know ur gonna lose a bit of money, hence its not about the money, but more the enjoyment and excitement and pride of building and owning such machines. and its sumthing that sum moron should not be able 2 take away from you so easily. frustrating and eye opening experience but good to see that it hasnt stoped you from building cars mate.

Dohmar Grand Master

Dohmar

Posted
Posted
yeah goodluck with that Ben but at the end of the day, it's still a civil matter and cops will do bugger all for you.

Only way you'll see any retribution is by personal summons bud (and hope he shows up), then hash it out before a Magistrate.

If he doesn't show up by the way, the Magistrate will more than likely rule against him, but even then you still have to get the dosh from him.

It'll end up costing you more time and money than it's worth.......and you'll probably have to travel interstate to get him before the Magistrate.

But its Fraud. Fraud is qualified via several different checks, including misrepresentation (which is the basis for most criminal claims).

Its not investigated by police unless you are out of pocket.

In my case, Im out of pocket $240. The amount is irrelevant, if you lose money via a transaction, it can be investigated by police and if sustained, elevated to criminal charges. I agree that police don't have anything to do with civil suits, however we do have a minimal level of protection in regards to people who enter into a business agreements in a 3 stage part - a) they advertise a good or service b) consumer decides to enter into transaction and hence pays advertiser moneys. c) goods or services do not match quoted item.

In this case, he has purchased goods himself and had them shipped to said mechanic. Said mechanic is under the legal obligation to explain what happened to n1 block and why engine was not built with n1 block. the fact a single piece of hardware has not been accounted for is basis for fraud.

It can be done. I'm not saying it'll be cheap, but say that you're on the dole and someone rorts you - you have legal aid automatically and it wont cost you a damn thing to pursue the matter. Otherwise you talk to a lawyer that works for percentages and test your luck.

Im not saying there are any golden rods of justice, however if you dig deep enough there are always avenues to pursue.

-D

COPYME AGAIN Rookie

COPYME AGAIN

Posted
  • Author
Posted
But its Fraud. Fraud is qualified via several different checks, including misrepresentation (which is the basis for most criminal claims).

Its not investigated by police unless you are out of pocket.

In my case, Im out of pocket $240. The amount is irrelevant, if you lose money via a transaction, it can be investigated by police and if sustained, elevated to criminal charges. I agree that police don't have anything to do with civil suits, however we do have a minimal level of protection in regards to people who enter into a business agreements in a 3 stage part - a) they advertise a good or service b) consumer decides to enter into transaction and hence pays advertiser moneys. c) goods or services do not match quoted item.

In this case, he has purchased goods himself and had them shipped to said mechanic. Said mechanic is under the legal obligation to explain what happened to n1 block and why engine was not built with n1 block. the fact a single piece of hardware has not been accounted for is basis for fraud.

It can be done. I'm not saying it'll be cheap, but say that you're on the dole and someone rorts you - you have legal aid automatically and it wont cost you a damn thing to pursue the matter. Otherwise you talk to a lawyer that works for percentages and test your luck.

Im not saying there are any golden rods of justice, however if you dig deep enough there are always avenues to pursue.

-D

Just like communism some things seem great in theory however when applied to a real world example things are never black and white there is a great big grey area where most things lie.

After obtaining legal advise after the fact there is very limited criminal legal recourse, even in an absolute police state such as South Australia. If legally it was decided by the courts that there existed a case to answer, what are the chances of prosecution obtaining a conviction? Even so that would not change my outcome nor would I have been compensated in any form via the system. Another concideration for me was a person who would be concerned with that outcome would not have operated in that matter if he valued his reputation.

Long story short SLED is completely correct in his viewpoint.

COPYME AGAIN Rookie

COPYME AGAIN

Posted
  • Author
Posted
i think you spend 180k on a car youre already know ur gonna lose a bit of money, hence its not about the money, but more the enjoyment and excitement and pride of building and owning such machines. and its sumthing that sum moron should not be able 2 take away from you so easily. frustrating and eye opening experience but good to see that it hasnt stoped you from building cars mate.

It was more than that, I just believe you should get what you pay for and at the standard described, Life is a learning experience and I have made gains because of the incidents.

I now have my parts sent to my home and do as much of the work myself as possible I find I appreciate my toys alot more this way and the build. :laugh:

Damo_R34 Grand Master

Damo_R34

Posted
Posted
Im not saying there are any golden rods of justice, however if you dig deep enough there are always avenues to pursue.

-D

OT, but whenever u have spiel Ben, i look forward to reading the extremely insightful final sentence :laugh: Kinda like the guy from CSI: Miami.

Tangles Grand Master

Tangles

Posted
Posted
Haha, saved your bacon with that last sentence bud......sorry to hear of the heartache and pain to the hip pocket.......unfortunatly a comfortable living and young age aren't always a good mix......wisdom tends to come later.

and a big here here to presumptions about people's expendable income.

every one is saying that viewpoint it correct.

utter BS

"big here here to presumptions....." what presumptions?? more like presumptions that some one "wise" would step in and offer some guidence in the matter

Im shocked that while plenty ppl, such as friends/family & fellow enthusiests, knew you were outlaying big money for a car project no-one stood by and wisely pointed out things from a different perspective.

meh a fool and his money is soon parted

Dohmar Grand Master

Dohmar

Posted
Posted
OT, but whenever u have spiel Ben, i look forward to reading the extremely insightful final sentence :D Kinda like the guy from CSI: Miami.

Yeah I talk a lot of shit after getting on the bourbon lols

-D

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • PranK
      Chris' Toyota Mark ii JZX110

      By PranK · Posted

      This looks great! Awesome to have the 5 speed with an LSD in this. The Recaro's look like SR2's or SR3's. It's a shame they've been retrimmed as they would have looked sweet in their original colours. I think I'd want my agent to be a little more up front and informative too. I've never imported but I reckon it would make me a little nervous, so the more info the better.
    • soviet_merlin
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By soviet_merlin · Posted

      Thanks for doing that Duncan! Makes you a good person in my books. We don't get kangaroos or wombats here. But we have bats and it's similar. AFAIK it's often the mums with a baby attached that get hit because they drop lower when starting from a tree. If you hit an animal, check on it. https://www.ifaw.org/au/resources/wildlife-rescue-app An app to get the closest wildlife rescue contact.
    • Murray_Calavera
      Jacks that fit under GTR lips that can reach the subframe?

      By Murray_Calavera · Posted

      My dream is also to have a proper hoist, but I don't think it will ever happen. My quickjack is probably as close as I'll ever get, it really is very good though. 
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      Yeah we keep on in the dailies, it is pretty poor how many animals get hit and the driver leaves without checking....have saved a couple of little ones over the years. Bit of a gruesome job though, pouches generally need to be cut open because they are so tight and often the joey doesn't realise mum is gone so they are still locked onto the teat. I checked the modules in front of the DS wheel where an oil cooler should go.... There is the radar unit - that can go for race use) One of the 2 HX water pumps, the silver cylinder. That needs to be kept but might be able to be relocated But the bad news, the big computer mounted vertically in front of the wheel (blocking any potential air exit) is the electric steering computer. That is required until/unless i do a hydraulic steering conversion, and in CAD based modern car design it is not like I can just pop a big unit like that somewhere else (plus the loom would be too short anywhere else too). So, the passenger side is OK to clear out (just use a smaller washer reservoir, potentially elsewhere), but the DS no beuno
    • Duncan
      Chris' Toyota Mark ii JZX110

      By Duncan · Posted

      Well, all the best with the new camry It was interesting to hear about the UK process, it is generally a lot more streamlined here with a shipping agent looking after all the import side (noting the exact final price can still be a surprise.....) and I've used a few different brokers on the japan (or US) side, and never had any trouble with any of them....luck of the draw I guess. You mentioned you didn't get the auction sheet (understandable since you bought it from a dealer, not auction), but I always try and get hold of that because they are pretty thorough. I've imported 2x R grade vehicles over the years and both were fine, repairs in Japan are pretty thorough compared to here in Oz.
×
×
  • Create New...