Got Defected!

[eskaR]

hey guys unfortunately i got defected by the coppers =(

i have a question here does vicroads inspect everything during inspection or they just check the list that i was defected for?

do I have to get everything back to stock or just get what was asked done?

also does anyone know any shops around melbourne where i can get a muffler and put it on on the same day?

thanks for help

cheers

eskar

[Charles89]

hey guys unfortunately i got defected by the coppers =(

i have a question here does vicroads inspect everything during inspection or they just check the list that i was defected for?

do I have to get everything back to stock or just get what was asked done?

also does anyone know any shops around melbourne where i can get a muffler and put it on on the same day?

thanks for help

cheers

eskar

I have a stock R33 muffler for sale

[conan7772]

hey guys unfortunately i got defected by the coppers =(

i have a question here does vicroads inspect everything during inspection or they just check the list that i was defected for?

do I have to get everything back to stock or just get what was asked done?

also does anyone know any shops around melbourne where i can get a muffler and put it on on the same day?

thanks for help

cheers

eskar

First, learn the regulations and don't forget your rights.

You'll be surprised how often the cops get it wrong.

The RTA has these downloadable in PDF but you gotta dig deep to find them.

Go to RTA website,

Click Registration

Click Useful Downloads - Vehicle standards.

Then search your individual defected item. You'll eventually find a relative regulation.

If you're in the right, go to court and dispute it.

As for mufflers, did the cops take a Db reading ?

If they didn't, then how do they know it's illegal.

I got pinged for my front rego plate being on a slant, but it WAS within 45 degrees and conformed.

I took a day off work, disputed it, and won. No court costs.

The cops in court didn't even know the regulation themselves and the judge was pissed off at them !

Don't let them give you a track record. Every time they check your rego, it'll all show up and they'll never leave you alone.

Edited October 17, 2009 by conan7772

[wanzi]

bad luck dude, but listen to conan7772, a lot of cops dunno wot they r talking about and just wanna be a pain in ur ass. if they are going to hand u a defect then ask to see their TMU license, no license the get their badge number and report them cos they are not allowed to check out ur car or look under the hood or issue defects.

there is a handbook u can get that actually has all the rules and regulations in it and being a skyline driver its good to have it in case a cop tries to shit talk u. that pettit wanker got suspended for making up bullsh*t defects and i think a lot more cops out there are doin the same thing all the time.

and about vicroads, it depends on what the defect it. u can call them and ask if they want to see the car but its 50/50 chance they will. if its height then yes, but other defects u usually just need to go to vicroads and show them the RWC and be on ur way

[Charles89]

bad luck dude, but listen to conan7772, a lot of cops dunno wot they r talking about and just wanna be a pain in ur ass. if they are going to hand u a defect then ask to see their TMU license, no license the get their badge number and report them cos they are not allowed to check out ur car or look under the hood or issue defects.

there is a handbook u can get that actually has all the rules and regulations in it and being a skyline driver its good to have it in case a cop tries to shit talk u. that pettit wanker got suspended for making up bullsh*t defects and i think a lot more cops out there are doin the same thing all the time.

and about vicroads, it depends on what the defect it. u can call them and ask if they want to see the car but its 50/50 chance they will. if its height then yes, but other defects u usually just need to go to vicroads and show them the RWC and be on ur way

So you definately sure that if they aren't TMU, they can't defect you??

[wanzi]

So you definately sure that if they aren't TMU, they can't defect you??

im 99% sure cos if they arent TMU then they wont know what they can defect u on. like this one idiot that pulled over bez, he couldnt defect him but he looked under the hood to give him a hard time. hes like "where u hiding the turbo?" and everyones like wtf is this guy stupid or something?

i bet the worst they could do is get u for bald tyres but as for under the hood no chance

[eskaR]

thanks bros does RTA rule apply to vic ?

i was defected in some drug/alcohol operation in the city well you know with the big buses.

i was asked to park at the side after breathtest and they started to talk cock

ive got a MAJOR and heres the list (as written on the notice)

front end alignment (ive just done it no longer than 1 month when i replaced my tyres)

induction system - to be connected ( i have a random pipe in my engine bay unconnected)

gear stick - to comply with ADR's (i didnt know you get defected for gearknobs thats pretty stupid)

exhaust pipe - to be protrude past rear of vehicle (understandable i was about to replace it)

apexi unit to be removed (it is a afc neo)

so now ive got a major defect what can i do now or do i simply get them done and go for inspection?

i wasnt asked for RWC tho.

thanks

eskar

[eskaR]

and so if im to get the list done and pass the inspection

do i have to remove my boost controller, air filter/intercooler etc.. which are not on the list

or I can just leave them so as vicroads only inspect according to the list??

[wanzi]

thanks bros does RTA rule apply to vic ?

i was defected in some drug/alcohol operation in the city well you know with the big buses.

i was asked to park at the side after breathtest and they started to talk cock

ive got a MAJOR and heres the list (as written on the notice)

front end alignment (ive just done it no longer than 1 month when i replaced my tyres)

induction system - to be connected ( i have a random pipe in my engine bay unconnected)

gear stick - to comply with ADR's (i didnt know you get defected for gearknobs thats pretty stupid)

exhaust pipe - to be protrude past rear of vehicle (understandable i was about to replace it)

apexi unit to be removed (it is a afc neo)

so now ive got a major defect what can i do now or do i simply get them done and go for inspection?

i wasnt asked for RWC tho.

thanks

eskar

well if its a major defect then ur most likely gonna have to bring ur car in to vicroads to be checked. its bloody bullsh*t how they think they can get u for ur alignment these days. it happened to my mate n i was like wtf.

ur gear stick can easily be fixed, ur already fixing ur exhaust so ur gonna have to get ur power fc (if thats what u were talking bout) removed as well as the boost controller cos if they are gonna look under the hood then they will check for all the obvious stuff as well. better to be safe than sorry i guess

[R31Nismoid]

bad luck dude, but listen to conan7772, a lot of cops dunno wot they r talking about and just wanna be a pain in ur ass. if they are going to hand u a defect then ask to see their TMU license, no license the get their badge number and report them cos they are not allowed to check out ur car or look under the hood or issue defects.

Mate sorry - but what the f*k are you on about?

Sounds like more of your "mates mate told me" like your other thread

Any officer of the law can check out your car, anytime, anywhere.

As for conan7772 - NSW laws do not apply here.

[wanzi]

Mate sorry - but what the f*k are you on about?

Sounds like more of your "mates mate told me" like your other thread

Any officer of the law can check out your car, anytime, anywhere.

As for conan7772 - NSW laws do not apply here.

r u sure? ive heard it from a cop before unless the rules have changed

[R31Nismoid]

It is law.

They are police, one of their jobs is to police the law.

It is not as if someone from the drug squad cant arrest someone for shoplifting, or a member of the TMU arrest someone for fighting in the street.

So how would be a defect for a car be any different? It is a law, simple as that.

[BeEnAr]

Nismoid is right, TMU are just specialised in traffic laws, like the drug squad are specialised in drugs. Any cop is able to issue a defect on any car that is deemed to be unsafe or not within roadworthy specification. Some of the laws are a bit shitty but they are the laws and you either abide by them or run the risk.

On the alignment thing, if your tyres are worn on inside or outside edge then they will obviously put that down to alignment issues hence the defect.

Just get it all fixed and you'll be sweet.

[tss]

bad luck dude, but listen to conan7772, a lot of cops dunno wot they r talking about and just wanna be a pain in ur ass. if they are going to hand u a defect then ask to see their TMU license, no license the get their badge number and report them cos they are not allowed to check out ur car or look under the hood or issue defects.

Don't know were you got your information from but its complete Bullsh*t

Any police officer, dept of Transport officer or vicroads officer can defect your vehilce, TMU mainly do it over GD police because it's more inline with there core duites.

here is the the regulation that tells you who can defect a vehilce.

Road Safety Act 1986

Section 14 Defective vehicles

(1) A member of the police force or a person referred to in section 13(6) may, in accordance with the regulations, on discovering a vehicle that does not comply with this Act or the regulations—

(a) issue a warning or a vehicle defect notice; or

(b) impose conditions on the use of the vehicle;

or

© prohibit the use of the vehicle.

Sub-section 13(6)

13(6) In this section authorised officer for the purposes of this section means—

(a) an officer of the Corporation authorised in writing by the Corporation for the purposes of this section; or

(ab) a person employed under Part 3 of the Public Administration Act 2004 in the police force of Victoria who is authorised in writing by the Chief Commissioner of Police for the purposes of this section;

or

(b) an employee in the Department of Infrastructure authorised in writing by the Secretary to the Department of Infrastructure for the purposes of this section.

Edited October 18, 2009 by tss

[eskaR]

Nismoid is right, TMU are just specialised in traffic laws, like the drug squad are specialised in drugs. Any cop is able to issue a defect on any car that is deemed to be unsafe or not within roadworthy specification. Some of the laws are a bit shitty but they are the laws and you either abide by them or run the risk.

On the alignment thing, if your tyres are worn on inside or outside edge then they will obviously put that down to alignment issues hence the defect.

Just get it all fixed and you'll be sweet.

thanks all for clarifying.

so do I have to fix only the stuffs listed or everything that might be a problem? (HID, ebc, etc..)

[R31Nismoid]

Well if you go to a RWC place and they pickup on other things, they will need to be fixed as well.

[eskaR]

thanks R31Nismoid.

I wasnt asked for RWC what i was told was "get these fixed and go to vicroads and show them this paper"

[R31Nismoid]

The RWC box wasn't ticked?

That is usually not the case with a major defect.

Ring VicRoads to check 110% what they need to see, and go from there mate.

[eskaR]

nope the RWC box remained unticked.

okay ill call vicroads later to make sure.

im out to fix some parts of my car.

anyone who has an experience please kindly share

thanks for help.

[sprinter666]

thought id throw my 2 cents as i copped a major for pretty much tyres, no horn and handbrake button non-automatic.

u need roadworthy cert, a major means u have an unroadworthy vehicle so simple answer got get it roadworthy, u wont have a problem, guy at vicroads who looked over my car was a youngen like me into cars, tested the stuff on the paper, n was done, vicroads are pretty cool people if u get ur shit in order dude.

peace let us know how u go.