233 kw r34 GTT vs 300kw XR6 turbo

[Abo Bob]

has anyone in here ever tried to drive a tiptronic... It has to be the most annoying sh**ful way to drive I have ever experienced

What's annoying is driving in Sydney traffic and pushing your foot on the clutch 500 times for a 10km journey. I've just gone from a manual SSS to a tiptronic GT-t and I'm fine with that.

Have you got a tiptronic?

[Sumo]

abo bob: traffic? pffft, since when has it been that hard to push a clutch in? People are getting lazy these days

[samc]

I have actually driven an R34 GTT Tiptronic. The transmission does suck. I think the best thing that could happen to these cars is to have a sex change (auto to manual). Ric Shaw gave this as his one and only advise to my cousin. He has now been convinced. Can anyone lend him $3,500?

[Cubes]

If I was going to buy an auto car the only car that would be is a TT Supra. Auto's in those things go hard.

Problem is I wouldn't buy a supra. So It looks like no auto for me.

Besides traffic in Adelaide is fine.

My oldies new Nissan Patrol has a power assisted clutch.

It doesn't look like it would be to hard to adapt either.

[LastTemptation]

you havent experianced the supra in all its fury my friend.

[predator]

good call samc..

I don't think the tiptronic is the best way to compare things. And don't forget a few years can make a big difference to the technology - tiptronic has changed a lot over the years since its come on the scene.

The power level of the 34 is also seems very low and its capable of much more with better tuning and components. Somebody should take a well tuned ~180rwkw modded 33 gts-t out there as a comparison also... might surprise them.

[Cubes]

Supra's do go well.

Its a very nice motor.

[LastTemptation]

hey pred get my pm?

[NIZR34GTT]

Big difference between the manual and tiptronic in the GTt I can tell you.XR8's get eaten by them.

[CWest]

Guys I have a manual 34 and have run a 14.9 with the slips to prove it. The thing is I am N/A. I dont think a xr6 N/A could do that. Manual is the way to go, except maybe the auto supra.

[NIZR34GTT]

Hi Cwest what mods have you got and what boost are you running ?.What is the difference between the 34GTS and the 34GTt?

[R31Nismoid]

the xr6 has a GT45 turbo, running 6psi. It makes 240Kw at the flywheel. The skyline turbo's are alot smaller than the xr6 garret ballbearingn ones.

they are not a GT45 turbo on the XR6.

but needless to say, they are much bigger than the RB25 one, and not ceramic either.

Also your running a lot more torque with a good top end (XR)

there would be no-way that the sky would have one.

the turbo is a GT35/40 on the XR6. I believe it's the 600hp variant but i can get it confirmed if there is going to be an argument

[Cubes]

Only 20minutes ago a had a run with a stocky XR6 T manual.

To my disbelief it wasn't that quick. I have more trouble passing a manual VX GenIII when its up and rolling.

I'm running 17psi up to around 5500rpm where boost drops to 12.5psi. I've got a FMIC, exhaust and external fuel pump which makes it run rich. On 12.5psi it makes around 150rwkw.

I came from behind roughly inline with his exhaust pipe. I cam on to boost in second and by the time I clicked third my drivers door was level with his front bumper. Third pulled me a couple of car lengths in front. The run was up hill. He then did the loosers flyby with the stock exhaust sounding like it is a major restriction.

[Sumo]

Hi Cwest what mods have you got and what boost are you running ?.What is the difference between the 34GTS and the 34GTt?

GTS = no turbo

GTT = turbo

Sumo

[paulr33]

I dont think the r34 GTS exists

I think its

GT (non turbo) and GTT (Turbo)

[CWest]

Yes GT has no turbo. Just the ordinary 2.5LDE with variable timing. I've only got a 2.5 full exhaust system, air pod filter and a SAFC. Mind u for that ET I took out the rear seats, stereo, spare tyre, front bar (Cwest bar is pretty big) and only had a 1/4 tank. Still I was happy with that result, the best my previous near stock S2 R33 ever did was 14.35, though it was fully loaded.

[NIZR34GTT]

Thanks CWEST, gives me an idea what mine is likely to run.I am running 1 bar boost, 3" stainless exhaust, Blitz FMIC so I would imagine mine would do low 14's.Might go out and give it a run one day.

[CWest]

Hehe ... do you have the tiptronic or manual box. Oh the 14.35 was done in a manual s2 r33 Gtst. I think a flat 14 should be possible with your setup if you are manual. I did test drive a manual r34GTT after my series 2 was stolen and I noticed that the NEO engine seemed to give more power higher in the revs than my r33 ever did. So I hope you get your flat 14 ET. Good Luck.

[Boost King]

The XR6 Turbo hardly even needs to come onto boost because the 4litre capacity gives you crap loads of torque. Where a stock nissan needs to be on boost for general driving (or as I found). Also, the XR6 runs a T04 Turbo I beleive and a very small factory cooler. It it wasn't for a crap (Ford Only) fuel management system , a XR6 turbs with a few light mods, and 10psi, would blow the doors of a 300kw GT. Hence why ford dialed down the boost. I mean really, a stock 4 litre, makes around 170kw mark, a turbo addition at around 5-6psi, pumps 240 odd kw. Pretty impressive jump, and I know with 10psi, I/C and exhaust people make 300kw out of them. So really why would ford need to sell the V8's. We all know the Turbo variant has more punch and potential, but they have a strong market for the NA market and V8 market, so why mess with that. There was a review in HPI mag, showing a XR6 turbo against a Supra. Interesting read.

I prefer the skyline. I dont care how fast a XR6 can be, we always can show them a GTR (contest over) and also, we can throw a GTS around corners allot better that a full sized family car!

Over and out.

[Cubes]

I've noticed with the RB's and their stock turbo set ups, when boosted, exhaust, fmic they tend to make ever so slightly more power at the rear wheels than what they used to make at the flywheel.

I.e My RB20DET. Stock 160kw boost + mods 164rwkw. R33 RB25DET's Stock 187kw boost + mods 195rwkw.

Whats the most power (reliably) the ford has made after an ecu, exhaust, fmic & boost upgrade?