deisel cars ...

[hippy]

why do they still make them?? whats their advantage?? was told its a reliability thing?? was my friend right??

[strutto]

Pretty good fuel economy IIRC...

[Fitzpatrick Speed Works]

im in italy at the moment, i have been here 5 months and in europe diesel is king.. think of any car we have in australia that isnt oz made and i can tell you that in europe its a diesel, eg.. Astras, barinas, peugots, alfas. im hiring a car a deawoo matiz 900c turbo diesel over the chrissy break!!! its strange when you first arrive everything sounds like a truck (according to my gfriend)hhaha.

theres a car yard down the road with a brand new 328 bmw for sale for 26 000 euros which is about $42000.. its due to the fact its a diesel, and beemers are cheaper left hand drive.... the equivilent in petrol i was told by the guy is 51, 000 euros nearly double!!!

Diesel is a cheaper fuel, the engines are cheaper to maintain and produce and the economy is rediculously good, theres the main reasons why diesel is an advantage.. plus you get some of the sweetest spool up noises out some of the turbo deisels over here!!

[Sumo]

s13drifter is on the money! The diesel pugs here (specifically the 406) get better fuel economy then most of your little petrol shitters, and they would outrun an excel

Sumo

[dojobi]

I just spent 6 weeks driving around Europe in a little Peugeot 206 HDi. It was a 1.2L NA diesel from memory. Now it had some AWESOME fuel economy. I was averaging 800km per tank - and I don't think 206s have very big tanks. This included a lot of driving at 150km/h+ on the German autobahn, so it could have probably hit 1000km/tank if I wasn't spending half my time with my foot against the floor

[sven laptop]

The reason we don't have more diesels here is because the quality of the fuel sold here is crap.

The governmment is slowly changing the rules so that the fuel quality imporoves & that's when BMW, Audi etc plan to start bringing in more of the diesel models they sell so many of overseas.

There's also talk of a diesel commodore sometime in the future.

Mind you, Peugeot has sold diesels here for years & owners (especially farmers) swear by them.

They often run with no trouble for several hundred thousand k's.

[Pva_Glue]

I like Mitsubish(spell) PAJERO J-TOP

they comes with Turbo Disel..

Great fun for all round and 4WD

[hippy]

so why dont' we have good deisel feul??

[rs73]

Another reason why diesel is still produced, beside excellent fuel consumption, is the ability ot a diesel engine to produce so much torque at very low rpms. Therefore diesel is very suitable for commercial vehicles that need to haul heavy load while allowing them to make slow take off, also for 4WD where very low speed hill climb/descent could be helped by diesel's power curve characteristic.

[hippy]

so with deisel being so good ... why is petrol so popular?

[rs73]

Petrol is popular cos its ability to produce power quicker than diesel could because of faster combustion rate. More suitable for lighter cars where u need to accelerate

quick. In trucks, they can't accelerate quick but many trucks indeed have more torque to pull tons of loads than most race cars.

In the past, diesel was also associated with dirty and smoky combustion. Now the combustion has been improved especially in Benz TDI engines, so smoky engine is no longer an issue, providing a regular service is maintained. But still for acceleration, in general

diesel will loose to petrol engines, but in load pulling

ability, diesel win upper hand.

Basically two different engine for two different purpose.

The market determines which type of car majority of consumers would prefer to have...