What Class Do You Guys Run In?

[s13_Skyline_inside]

hi

wanted to to find out what class of motorsport the rest of you guys with skylines run in, the thing is ive spent the last few years building an rb30/26 t04z (I dont mind going to a smaller turbo, just want to use the engine), but i want to get into more than just track days later on, my dilemma is i wouldnt mind improved production but the 36mm restrictor would not give this size engine with a turbo any decent rev range, nor do I think id be able to compete in super sedans with other people who have unlimited budgets and tube frame chassis cars etc.

any idea's / imput would be greatly appreciated, I dont want to go and buy wheels etc that are two wide for the class that I go in later on.

cheers

[s13_Skyline_inside]

sorry didnt mension, its going into an r34gtt, It seems there aren't any classes where a bigger capacity forced induction car can compete apart from full open classes

[hrd-hr30]

it depends on what type of car you have, what type of motorsport you want to do and where you are. there are 2 different organising bodies in QLD - AASA and CAMS. CAMS have pretty strict categories as per the CAMS Manual of Motorsport , AASA sprints are pretty much "run what ya brung" just class cars on the number of cylinders and whether its turbo or not. NSW have a completely different class system for CAMS events which always confuses me when I do an event down there. I have NFI what its like in Vic or other states.

Edited January 10, 2010 by hrd-hr30

[evil_weevil]

supersprints would be SVD class most likely.

AASA yeah as Harry said you can run in any thing providing you have a full roll cage (NSW you would be in combined sedans - has everything from mx5's and mini's to HQ's and silvias and WRX's and BMW's)

[s13_Skyline_inside]

thanks guys, im in nsw. Ive read through the cams guidlines, they get pretty complicated. not right now but later on I want to do more than just timed laps, (with traffic). I know about your car weevil, sold the r33 for an mx5, would be the best way to start a build based around a certain catagory but ive already poured so much $ into an engine that i havnt used yet so I want to use my 34

[evil_weevil]

totally understandable mate! Ryan (BOZ22N) is doing the same with his r33!

What he is doing is putting cage in and going to be running with MRA and maybe iRace. MRA's class is combined sedans and I think iRace is muscle car class maybe?

Otherwise yeah, IPRA needs to be built to specific rules and restrictions.

Go all out, cage it and race MRA @ wakie - you'll love it!

[s13_Skyline_inside]

cool thanks m8, i'll check MRA and IRACE out when i get home

[Duncan]

you can't race an rb30 in any cams class except IPRA, and that would require a 36mm restrictor so a skyline is too heavy to be competitive.

sports sedans require original block for floorpan chasis cars, so rb25 is the max there.

I'd suggest just build whatever you like and race it with AASA/Irace/MRA. As long as they survive you'll be OK to run.

[s13_Skyline_inside]

As long as they survive you'll be OK to run.

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yeh im finding that out, i wasnt building it with a plan on racing it apart from super sprint and the track day, its just taken so long to get done due to lots of things and im thinking in another year once i get some things sorted id pull it off the road and race it. Irace muscle car division is looking good though seems like there are a few s15's lm rx7 etc, yeh IP wouldnt work to well, they dont really have a class for bigger cappacity cars that are forced induction i guess thats why the rotary's do so well and the sr20 powered cars get going.

what class do you race in duncan? your gtr has a few things done to it?

Edited January 11, 2010 by s13_Skyline_inside

[Duncan]

yeah I just mean as long as they are around as organisations. All of them are under 5 years old and only time will tell if they have the financial and insurance backing to make it. eg 2 people died in a rally in adelaide a few weeks back - imagine the investigations and insurance pay outs if you are the organisers.

I race in production cars, and although I have done heaps of work on the car it is 99% standard. Other than shocks/springs/ecu/exhaust/cam gears and safety stuff it is all factory including factory turbos, boost 12psi, standard cams, head, bottom end, wheels etc etc. Every new motor is fully measured and sealed to make sure I don't change anything from factory.

When I run outside CAMS I just turn the boost up from 12 to 18 psi but thats it. Its probably got the lowest power of pretty much any skyline on the track.

Its a bit late now....but when you build a car you need to pick the race category before you pick the car or you are in for a world of heartache and cost trying to make the wrong car fast. The AASA etc stuff is different - much looser (or no) rules and much less "serious".

[s13_Skyline_inside]

yeh thats what im finding out, seemed like a great idea 4 years ago to build a monster of an engine, now i cant really use it to race with, well im very limited anyway

with Irace i watched one of there races on speedweek, i liked the idea of the handicap starts for the lower powered cars, either way i want to get out on the track with other people in an actual race envoiroment and i like the more powerful cars, was even thinking how the r34 would go if i used a smaller turbo in IPRA, though the 36mm restrictor is very small for a 3ltr cap engine, r34 are heavier than alot of the cars but would have the extra torque, there commodores out there, id imagine they'd be a bit heavier than the r34.

Edited January 11, 2010 by s13_Skyline_inside

[Noddy]

you can't race an rb30 in any cams class except IPRA, and that would require a 36mm restrictor so a skyline is too heavy to be competitive.

sports sedans require original block for floorpan chasis cars, so rb25 is the max there.

I'd suggest just build whatever you like and race it with AASA/Irace/MRA. As long as they survive you'll be OK to run.

I think your wrong. I'm 99.9% sure you can run in 2A sports. I have looked into it with my local CAMS guy and am well down the 3L road.

As far as Sprints go there is plenty of scope for 3L skylines.

[Duncan]

good point, I keep forgetting about class 2 And I've never looked at the rules! Yours is log booked as 2A isn't it?