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hey everyone i need some help to fix my problem

CAR: Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-4 AWD With modifications.

PROBLEM:

The problem is my steering, in the morning when i first start the car and drive it the steering get stuck to the left, not stuck in the way where i cant move it, the steering wheel is just on an angel to the left not dead straight and i have to go left to right on to get it dead straight.

It also happens when I'm going 80kph + around a bend or so it pulls left and then back and then left again and it is dangerous and it unpleasant to drive.

also when going over numerous bumps on the road (only small ones tho) the car will go slightly left to right really fast and i can feel the back ones moving also.

MODIFICATIONS:

I HAVE 17" Wheels (One is different)

Have New Tiers (Fronts are the same Rears are differnt to each other)

Aftermarket KYB Excel- G Gas Struts

King Springs in front

Cut Springs in rear

MY SOLUTION ON WHAT I THINK IT IS:

After i changed my tiers i went to Bob-Jane T-mart for a wheel alignment and wheel balance and maybe they didn't do a proper job not sure.

or

maybe because the springs in the rear are cut and its lower in the rear and its throwing everything off.

MY POWER STEERING PUMP HAS A LOT OF AIR BUBBLES IN IT IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

ALSO i do not remember if the car was doing it before because it was off the road then i first bought it because i was changing a few parts like clutch ect before i put it back on the road

I'm not really sure of the problem so please help me out as much as you can.

thank you

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I have had this problem before and this is how i corrected it. Im not saying it will solve your problem but it is worth a shot as it works for me every time.

Hop in your car and drive it up your drive way steering it straight so the car goes straight and then stop and park the car. Dont reverse or turn the steering wheel. Ignore the steering wheel being not center, we will get to that later. Once you have done this, turn the car off and pop the bonnet. Pull the battery lead off and leave it off for about 5 min to discharge the car. Another cheats way of not waiting to discharge the car is disconnect battery and then press your foot on the brake. This will also discharge the car straight away without waiting.

In the meantime of discharging the cars power with the battery lead off, turn your steering wheel to right so it is straight. Ignore that the wheels may have slightly turned. Once you have done this and the steering wheel is straight, put the battery lead back on and start the car. DO NOT move the steering wheel. Let the hicas computer relearn its positioning of the steering wheel as it will notice the steering wheel sits as being center. After about 5 min turn the car off. Give it a min and then start it taking it for a drive to see if it corrected itself.

What happens is if you do a battery change or you disconnect the battery for a while and you have your steering wheel not straight when you put the battery leads on, it will think that this is the new center point of the steering wheel. Ive done it a few times were ive disconnected the battery, turned the steering wheel, reconnected the battery and then found the steering wheel to not be straight with the wheels. Doing this process above always fixes my problem.

I hope it fixes your issue. :D

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I have had this problem before and this is how i corrected it. Im not saying it will solve your problem but it is worth a shot as it works for me every time.

Hop in your car and drive it up your drive way steering it straight so the car goes straight and then stop and park the car. Dont reverse or turn the steering wheel. Ignore the steering wheel being not center, we will get to that later. Once you have done this, turn the car off and pop the bonnet. Pull the battery lead off and leave it off for about 5 min to discharge the car. Another cheats way of not waiting to discharge the car is disconnect battery and then press your foot on the brake. This will also discharge the car straight away without waiting.

In the meantime of discharging the cars power with the battery lead off, turn your steering wheel to right so it is straight. Ignore that the wheels may have slightly turned. Once you have done this and the steering wheel is straight, put the battery lead back on and start the car. DO NOT move the steering wheel. Let the hicas computer relearn its positioning of the steering wheel as it will notice the steering wheel sits as being center. After about 5 min turn the car off. Give it a min and then start it taking it for a drive to see if it corrected itself.

What happens is if you do a battery change or you disconnect the battery for a while and you have your steering wheel not straight when you put the battery leads on, it will think that this is the new center point of the steering wheel. Ive done it a few times were ive disconnected the battery, turned the steering wheel, reconnected the battery and then found the steering wheel to not be straight with the wheels. Doing this process above always fixes my problem.

I hope it fixes your issue. :D

thanks for the tip man and ill give it a go right now and let you know if it worked altho i dont have a hicas i have a altessa 4wd system but its worth a shot doesnt hurt to try

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the method you have discribed won't fix any problems with the front wheels not lining up with the steering wheel. it may fix any issues with the rear wheels, but not the front as it is a mechanical link between the front wheels and the steering wheel. the steering column actually turns the steering rack and the front wheels cannot move without the steering wheel moving, and vice versa.

also if your power steering lines have air in them or the pump is shot you will get vibrations through the steering wheel and it will feel jerky when you turn the wheel. i have driven a 180sx with a dying power steering pump and it had similar symptoms to what you are describing.

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The last time I got a Bob Jane place to do a wheel alignment, the steering wheel was off centre. Go and get a new alignment, centring the wheels to the steering wheel (ie steering wheel "straight ahead").

Get rid of the odd wheel and tyre on the rear. The odd (mis-matched) rear tyres make the car unroadworthy (unless you are running the space-saver spare). And check the fluid level in the P/S pump.

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The last time I got a Bob Jane place to do a wheel alignment, the steering wheel was off centre. Go and get a new alignment, centring the wheels to the steering wheel (ie steering wheel "straight ahead").

Get rid of the odd wheel and tyre on the rear. The odd (mis-matched) rear tyres make the car unroadworthy (unless you are running the space-saver spare). And check the fluid level in the P/S pump.

is the power steering pump ment to have air bubbles in it tho ?

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not that i am aware of. but what do you mean by bubbles? do you mean tiny little bubbles in the oil, or bigger bubbles? sometimes fresh oil will have tiny bubbles in it, but generally not. it is a hydraulic system and it works by pressurising the oil, as oil doesn't compress very well, but air does, so any air in the system will make it not function properly.

also is there any noise coming from the pump when you turn the wheel or even just at idle?

could be that your power steering pump is stuffed, or possibly even the steering rack is stuffed

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If you have odd wheels / tyres on the car, sort them out so that the wheel / tyre combo on each axle, at least, is the same. Then you might be in a position to diagnose what the problem really is.

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