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MzDfectd

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100% MUZZ!! :cheers: funny that.

While, sure they f*gged up, what they should have done is got a 30 year old, 40 year old, a 60 year, and all put them through the same to compare. In say a commodore - would the results have been much different? Who knows? maybe even these guys who do this sort of crap illegally might handle it better than those that have never touched one of these cars. In a way, the only way you do learn is buy pushing the limits.. in a controlled environment.

Also highlights the lack of understanding of these sorts of cars from the general public though - or the whole culture. Its hard to push a different image though.

"live is too short" .. yup, sure is - so go faster! :)

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500kw my left foot.

looks like he was pulling the media's leg more for laugh factor than anything else.

But yeah... get other people into these cars and see how they far. A darn sight worse is my prediction.

And i've never EVER had to use a slalom course on the street, anyone else here ever used a slalom course on the street?

Or flooring it in the wet around a corner?

LOL! i think not.

Give them FAIR TESTS and see the results.

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I like the way she said it was a simple driving test and then the instructor was talking to them he said it was going to be really hard.

Yeah, but you know, TodayTonight, A Current Affair, all that crap, it's all shock reporting for ratings. But the story does go to show it's a minority that make young drivers with nice cars look like hoons. I hope that story haunts the fools for years to come. I just wish they'd include some responsible young drivers who could actually do that slalom run.

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haha they got the biggest lebs straight out of Bankstown NSW!

MY DRiViNG SKiLLZ iZ 11 ouT oF 10! iV DoNeZ iT aLLZ uLeH! HeLLieZ, STaNDSTiLLZ, MaCCaZ CaRPaRK

pfftt..

when i was doing my advanced driving courses, the worse drivers there were the "mums and dads" in their company cars equiped with ABS

yet, my mate and myself with no ABS and slightly older cars were doing alot better than all of em

i was FEARING being anywhere near these mums and dads when it comes to a situation to TRY and stop the car

im not saying im any good, just saying that some poeple are alittle more aware of their surroundings, limits and their car.

id say the top notch, quality reporting of TT told those habibs to talk themselves up to make em look stupid on tv (and they did look fvkcing stupid)

i dont reckon anyone else here in that situation would talk themselves up like that before a test

...and if u think u would, your kidding yourself

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I think some of you may have the wrong impression of what the story was addressing.

"But yeah... get other people into these cars and see how they far. A darn sight worse is my prediction.

And i've never EVER had to use a slalom course on the street, anyone else here ever used a slalom course on the street?" It wasn't about whether people have ever had to do a slalom course on the road. It was more about how people managed and perceived themselves with a "high powered vehicle" and how the wrong mentality can bring a lot of grief to those who overestimate their abilities.

Agreed that the R32 did not have 500kw. That's a fricken joke. That would mean the car has over 350kw at the treads. I know for a fact how hard it is to drive a high powered car on the street and although I'm not claiming that I'm the best driver in the World, far from it but at least I know how far I can go before I'm putting myself and others in danger and that is the reason why I don't turn up the wick until the car hits the track. There is no point driving a car with 500+rwkw on the street coz there's nowhere you can go to use the power and enjoy the exhilaration of flat sticking it before trouble comes your way.

This is an email I sent TT after I saw the story first back in Sept 9 2002:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing in regards to your story on Monday 9 September regarding "The need for speed".

Not everyone who owns a Japanese sports car a hoon on the streets. You have painted us all in a bad light when it is simply a few irresponsible people giving the rest of us a bad name.

When I saw your footage of the cars doing 200km/h+ and the bike doing nearly 300km/h on public roads, I found that to be very disturbing and realise why you were doing the story in the first place.

The truth of the matter is that you have singled out 3 individuals who were overly confident in their driving skills and turned them into a stereotype which people will now associate with myself and fellow Japanese sports car drivers. I spend a lot of my leisure time around people who own Japanese sports cars, some stock, some modified and to this day, I have not seen any of these people break any more road rules than you would find an average person breaking on any given day.

I am also a partner in a business which works on modifying, servicing and upgrading Japanese sports cars and all of our customers are 'clean' members of society. Although they may drive very fast cars, none of them brag about their driving skills like the people you had doing the training course with Ian Luff. Those 'hoons' as you describe them are simply ****y people who are too arrogant for their own good. My friends, business partners and associates spend time in this interest circle for the simple fact that we find these cars interesting and have visions of improving our cars from standard form, whether it be visibly or performance wise.

I am also questioning whether you made a mistake when you stated that the man who drove the Nissan Skyline 'Godzilla' (assuming it was a GTR) had 500 kilowatts. Are you sure you didn't mean 500 horsepower. Very few road registered cars in this country have that kind of power. I only know of one of these cars in Victoria. Although my car doesn't quite have 500 kilowatts, it has been on a dynometer and measured 360 kilowatts at the wheels. After estimating drivetrain loss, we came to the conclusion that I had 470 kilowatts at the engine. 500 kilowatts although obtainable costs a lot of money and man hours to achieve. It is not something that all high performance sports cars would have.

The only times I have really given my car a flat out push was at Calder Park drag strip during one of their legal off street drag meets.

I believe that it is a good idea to encourage driver training for people with high performance cars and there are many places in Victoria which people can partake in training courses such as the Jim Murcott Driving School and DECA training days. Maybe if you publicised this kind of training, not so many people would be having accidents due to lack of experience and training.

My 2c worth.

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