Heartbreak Again!

[Tommmo]

off she goes....

[BTM]

That u Benny Mack?

Yep

[Tommmo]

did you close that drivers window?

anyway very interesting read.. this swiper fella have a website? seems like a top bloke

nah battery is dead, lucky it was a nice day

[Tommmo]

engine is now out and stripped, ready for shipping

also big thanks to adrian for donating his "box"

[Martin Donnon]

Donnon is in the same boat, and last I heard he is becoming a sponsor. We have been lenient up til now, but it is unfair for other legit sponsors who support and make the SAU site possible.

There isnt a sponsor on this site that develops and engineers parts for the R35 that we know of - Resellers yes, but that is all - not that its a bad thing

Our solution was a simple one when asked by the mods - stop posting about we do, and we did - problem solved. 99% of our business is overseas, so there is no point rocking the boat and making waves, hence we dont talk about anything we do here and everyone is happy. Anyone chasing 35 technology is already a member of NAGTROC anyway, and many SAU existing sponsors onsell our technology. Not really the same thing then is it as the poor chap that apparently needs this site to survive

I have been a member of SAU since 2002 and our sponsorhip of SAU SA is only for warm fuzzies because we like to foster the community some. We do no - very little - business out of it. Its just goodwill, no more, as is my membership here

My boat is there to be sunk then if it makes anyone feel good. Make me Martyr rather than Martin. Its all the same when I wake up in the morning and life goes on regardless

[Madaz]

^^ since getting to know you more Martin i recommend your business when i can,

i think its a fear thing people may feel brushed off when they speak to you but they don't realise how busy you really are and you don't want/need to chew the phat with someone asking about pipe dreams

[jonsey]

good read some interesting points

[Damo_R34]

move to SA mate, we are a friendly mob

[Madaz]

yep

[Fair Enough]

anyway, enough said.

on topic.

David, when should we expect to see the crate?

[eevo]

anyway, enough said.

on topic.

David, when should we expect to see the crate?

hopefully the freight company will do it crate away...

[rad100]

move to SA mate, we are a friendly mob

+1

[GTRNUR]

Im interested to see how things go with this, and especially to see what Paul finds in the engine that went wrong. A mate went through this a few months ago, except that he ended up with a piston that parted company from a rod, and a rod that wanted to feel daylight. Total loss of the engine, and the forensic analysis of the damage revealed it was either detonation induced, or simple component material failure. The damage was so bad when it happened at nearly 8000 rpm there wasnt much left to look at. You have been very lucky your motor is salvagable.

My money is on incorrect bearing clearances, due to either machining and poor inspection practices, or the rod big ends that being out of round when torqued to spec (or over torqued rod bolts). Measuring bolt stretch before removal of the bolts and after could be interesting.

[Tangles]

if you're ever in adelaide paul more than welcome to hit me up for a room/bed

decent bunch down here, not too much tall poppy syndrome

thommo best of luck with the build; im sure it'll be awesome

[Tommmo]

anyway, enough said.

on topic.

David, when should we expect to see the crate?

should be getting picked up this afternoon, so I dare say you should see it earliest Friday or Monday

[nugzy31]

My theory is the bearings... ACL race series bearings arent the greates... their not too bad, but up againt genuine nissan bearings, its chalk and cheese.... excellent reading though... great to hear things are getting sorted

[Fair Enough]

My theory is the bearings... ACL race series bearings arent the greates... their not too bad, but up againt genuine nissan bearings, its chalk and cheese.... excellent reading though... great to hear things are getting sorted

most of the busted stuff we get sent to fix up is due to poor assembly practices. Component failure is quite rare if they are prepared and assembled correctly. It appears to us that new parts are being fitted to an engine block thats been ill prepared without so much as discarding the packaging. Quite often the root cause of these failures is still buried somewhere in the build and has not been assesed and rectified

some food for thought...we have built several "insert big jap brand" RB stroker engines that we insist be correctly prepared before use. The certain brand im refering to costs about $1500+ to get it to a standard where im totally satisfied that its the best we can offer.

this is the reason up to certain power levels i recommend using STD 26 conrods. Yes they need a few bucks on them to get them serviceable but this cost is about 1/2 of the cheap chinese stuff which we have found need the same treatment anyway. An $800 set of rods can cost double that after you fit decent small end bushes, resize the big ends and get them balanced.

unfortunately these components often get the blame for failure when things go south, when in reality if the builder has enough experience with these engines, good product knowledge and correctly prepares/assembles the parts they often survive quite happily when using the cheaper brands. A well assembled engine using cheaper parts will always outlast a poorly assembled engine using mega buck parts.

Edited November 3, 2010 by Fair Enough

[Tommmo]

still waiting for pickup, I was told wednesday afternoon...

called them yesterday " no worries, we'll get it sorted"

called today... "i'll find out whats going on and call you back"

still waiting...........

[Fair Enough]

still waiting for pickup, I was told wednesday afternoon...

called them yesterday " no worries, we'll get it sorted"

called today... "i'll find out whats going on and call you back"

still waiting...........

That actually works well as ive got 3 going between now and monday. That will free up a stand for yours as if i had it now it would be still sitting in the crate.

[Marko R1]

engine is now out and stripped, ready for shipping

also big thanks to adrian for donating his "box"

show us ya big red box paul!