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SERIOUS NEWS -- 15 Year Rule WILL CHANGE ON 1 JAN 2005

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R31Nismoid Grand Master

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On the other hand, I don't want a stupid influx of 15 year old pollution-making machines (which many are)...

They cite that their main concern if the sheer numbers, and environmental impact as the two reasons for the need to change the rules...

Easy now... honestly HOW many poor imports do you see come into the country compared to the sheer amount of crap that is on Oz roads these days???

Imports usually are better kept, as Meggala said, and would agree with that.

I very rarely see a decent condition Aust car in proportion to how many there are around compared to imports.

That's just my view, i've seen many 15+ cars come in, and they have all been kept better than any Oz example.

And they go harder, and are built far better than the Oz Versions, or other comparable models.

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Easy now... honestly HOW many poor imports do you see come into the country compared to the sheer amount of crap that is on Oz roads these days???

Imports usually are better kept, as Meggala said, and would agree with that.

I very rarely see a decent condition Aust car in proportion to how many there are around compared to imports.

That's just my view, i've seen many 15+ cars come in, and they have all been kept better than any Oz example.

And they go harder, and are built far better than the Oz Versions, or other comparable models.

That might very well be true, and since we already have so many old and decrepit cars polluting our environment and making our roads unsafe, do we really need more, albeit at a slightly lesser level?

I can't see them passing any legislation that sees all 15 year old domestically sold cars being scrapped, but this is one thing that they can do to reduce the number of older cars on our roads.

zsky Rising Star

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should be interesting to see what happens I feel there is a place for the 15 year rule as it stands . one main reason is the fact that the japanese cars have less milage and more frequent serious inspection than australian cars of the same era.

cheers

meggala your idea is good i like it :)

zsky Rising Star

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Why don't they have a compliancing plate style system (minus the harsh SEVS/RAWS compliancing) for 15 year old imports and only allow so many "compliance plates" per year - thus limiting the amount of 15yr imports. Either that, or they've got to cut a little more slack in the SEVS/RAWS scheme as it's getting difficult to import cars.

d0p3y that is not a bad idea either :)

zsky Rising Star

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i say leave the 15yrs rule as it is, like not everyone can afford a later model car and i would like to be able to get another passage if something happened to mine and yeh there is alot of crap of local offerings of second hand cars and alot of jap cars are better build quality and condition than local offerings.

predator Grand Master

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I guess it comes down to whether you think old cars are pieces of junk and should be off our roads, or whether you believe that new cars are a waste of money and don't have anything an old car does anyhow. So that comes down to the crux of it.

Really it is the governments *own* fault for coming in with regulations as restrictive as SEVS, I mean of course people are going to still want to bring the highly modified cars and therefore the massive jump in numbers. What did they think was going to happen?

To me though, I'm not really too fussed. If they bring it in 2005, that leaves plenty of time for myself and others who might be considering 15 year cars to bring in a car or two. The demand unfortunately could be a little high - and I can already see the dealers trying to stock up with as many 15 year cars as possible (if they think they are going to be popular sellers), just like under SEVS.

It also makes the next year a bit of a pain in the ass, and Japan tries to offload a bunch of stuffed cars (amongst a few good ones) to australia, as they know it might be the last opportunity to.

As for people protecting the "value" of their current cars I think that is a little narrow minded, but of course people are always wanting to look after themselves now aren't they? :)

Shrub32 Proficient

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people with cars that just had their 15th birthday are for the 15 year rule being scrapped!

people wishing to purchase 15 year old cars are against!

whos side are you on hehe ;)

zsky Rising Star

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people with cars that just had their 15th birthday are for the 15 year rule being scrapped!

people wishing to purchase 15 year old cars are against!

whos side are you on hehe ;)

i said that because it sux how DOTARS are changing the laws for importing cars into aus

Madtrang Community Regular

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To an upside for every1 (if 15 rule stays, which probably wont b exactly the same) who has a 15 yr old car, At least u can get cheap parts for your car.(Due to the sheer amount that will come in and the ratio of wrecked cars will increase of these models) Or even beter, now u can buy the exact same for a daily driver, and keep one nice for the weekends.

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I must say one thing. PPL are sending emails to DOTARS abusing them and telling them that they are fu*ked in the head for wanting to change the laws in the first place and this and that. But what is that going to do?? Its only going to make it worse for us. The ppl who are going to buy the cars.

Personaly I belive they have made up their own minds already and it will be down to 30 years. But then againe the amount of 15 year old cars comming is about 3 times the amount that all the RAWS put together can import.

This is my veiw on this topic. It sux that the GOV have done what they already have done with the SEVS but we are the public we are not important to anyone that sits in a chair all day.

Morgs Veteran

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You want to stop the change - bring a vaild case to DOTARS. Its got to satisfy them as well as you.

On the one hand, the car importing industry is slowing down - but theres a heap of cars here - so Im happy enough :)

Airzone Rising Star

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C'mon, you can't scrap all 15yr old cars based on age. I'm sure you'll find some immaculatly kept / restored old machines (even aussie!) that are in far better condition than mid 90's family cars getting around. I think the problem with our cars is simply how easy it is to get a pink slip, and how many dodgy 'mechanics' are out there who just pass them. A simple rule - if it's bent, rusty, worn, smokey, rattly, etc it must be fixed to factory standard otherwise it doesn't pass. Sorry to say, but if someone can't afford their car to be repaired / replaced for rust, then they can't afford a car no matter the reason they need one.

After all, what about the guys who have old toranas, monaros, etc who keep them so squeaky clean that they're in better condition than they day the left the factory? Age isn't the only factor for a cars condition and there's a lot of motoring history out there that deserve to be on the road more than a cheap 89 GTR that some P plater kid bought to thrash (and kill himself in).

That said, I agree with everyone who says it's the governments own stupid fault for the situation ending up as it has. It's just a knee-jerk reaction due to their lack of foresight of the consequences of sucking the d|cks of the local car industry. One day one of this countries leaders will wake up and see the big picture as a whole, and Australia will become a better place. Of course hell will promptly freeze over :)

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