TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 I'm running an hks 2835 pro s which is a modified 3071car makes 285rwkw on bp ultimate and 325rwkw on powerplus e85 that's 381 and 435 hp respectively the car has been making this power on stock internals for 2 years now and sees a lot of limiter time a 3076 will just nudge over my power levels by a few kw. A z32 afm is an airflow metre from a z32 and will be required to support that kinda airflow your clutch will hold, but as a single HD won't last forever Fmic will be fine as for the stock internals, of course it is a gamble and it could go pop.... But that is life and it's just a gamble you take My car wouldnt see a great deal of the limiter as its just going to be for street use. The car was bog stock when i got it and i have just be doing the breathing mods mainly but now want to up the levels. So this really is the maximum power youl get before mass amounts of money are required. And 450 at the wheels is a pretty nice amount. What is the fuel rail??? i have seen a few around but it hasnt been mentioned as something id need, any help there??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Stock fuel rail is more than adequate for these power levels also don't forget that without spending a few grand on suspension and diff, a 300rwkw is next to pointless if the car is purely for street use I'd be looking at a highflow turbo, intank fuelpump, injectors, afm, return flow cooler, stock or stock looking airbox and nistune if it's available for gtt's. Shoot for 250-270 rwkw which os more than enough for street use Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Stock fuel rail is more than adequate for these power levels also don't forget that without spending a few grand on suspension and diff, a 300rwkw is next to pointless if the car is purely for street use I'd be looking at a highflow turbo, intank fuelpump, injectors, afm, return flow cooler, stock or stock looking airbox and nistune if it's available for gtt's. Shoot for 250-270 rwkw which os more than enough for street use Hi mate, yeah its going to be purely for street use,what u mentioned is sounding pretty bloody good at the 250-270rwkw. Would i need an ecu or would they remap the old one when it gets tuned?? And what would be the best order to get this done, im assuming that the turbo would be the last thing on the list?? front mount which already have, fuel pump and injectors, afm, and then the turbo last?? or get a new turbo and put it in but run only run low levels until the others are done?? Appreciate your help mate. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Turbo has to come last and ecu first as you will need it to handle bigger injectors and afm Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Turbo has to come last and ecu first as you will need it to handle bigger injectors and afm Is that buying a new ecu or get it remapped and let them know whats going to be happening to the car?? As for afm, would the bosch z32 afm be suitable for this?? And injectors, something around 500cc??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthX Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Not sure what the e85 or z32afm are?? What is the fuel rail??? Is that buying a new ecu or get it remapped and let them know whats going to be happening to the car?? No offense dude, but if you're asking these sort of questions, 500whp isn't for you... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Is that buying a new ecu or get it remapped and let them know whats going to be happening to the car??As for afm, would the bosch z32 afm be suitable for this?? And injectors, something around 500cc??? Bosch afm is correct you need to have a standalone ecu OR a remap done for the bigger injectors and then again when the turbo goes on it's cheaper in the long run to do it all at once 500cc's will suffice, but given the price difference is minimal I'd be looking at 700's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUN_METAL_GTR32 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 couldn't agree more! and a much quicker way of doing it, instead of having your car off the road all the time to have work done to it... i disagree y would the kid sell his car to go buy a car that has been built by someone else. ppl dont build 300-400kw cars to cruise around in, theu build them to thrash them. ive just started my build up and there is no way i would have done it on a car that was already modified i bought a stock car and started from scratch. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bosch afm is correctyou need to have a standalone ecu OR a remap done for the bigger injectors and then again when the turbo goes on it's cheaper in the long run to do it all at once 500cc's will suffice, but given the price difference is minimal I'd be looking at 700's Ok no worries, would it be ok to do it all with minimal driving and get a first and final tune up done when finished?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 i disagreey would the kid sell his car to go buy a car that has been built by someone else. ppl dont build 300-400kw cars to cruise around in, theu build them to thrash them. ive just started my build up and there is no way i would have done it on a car that was already modified i bought a stock car and started from scratch. yeah mate im with ya 100 percent here, thats also why i didnt get a skyline that had been owned over here yet. first owner, and stock as hell when i got it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 No offense dude, but if you're asking these sort of questions, 500whp isn't for you... yeah mate, wanted power levels have dropped considerably. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i disagreey would the kid sell his car to go buy a car that has been built by someone else. ppl dont build 300-400kw cars to cruise around in, theu build them to thrash them. ive just started my build up and there is no way i would have done it on a car that was already modified i bought a stock car and started from scratch. Because you let someone else sink the 20k into it... If the car has been built properly, there should be no issue with it being driven hard at all and resulting condition. Starting from scratch just costs you more for the same end result really. I know a number of people who've picked up well modified examples that are still fine 2-3 years on... absolute bargain and saved them a good 10-15k. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have to agree with ash here... If I was to do it again I would definately buy a built car. Sure it's nice and romantic to DIY it, but in the long run it will just cost you an ass load of dollars you can always buy a car that has a known history from a club member if I was building a 34, personally I'd just max out the stock fuel system, strap on a highflow & ecu and shoot for 230rwkw Then I'd bomb 5k into handling mods and have an insanely fun car... That or buy a built one... I love my 300rwkw car, but if I had my time again I'd let some other sucker pay for it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have to agree with ash here...If I was to do it again I would definately buy a built car. Sure it's nice and romantic to DIY it, but in the long run it will just cost you an ass load of dollars you can always buy a car that has a known history from a club member if I was building a 34, personally I'd just max out the stock fuel system, strap on a highflow & ecu and shoot for 230rwkw Then I'd bomb 5k into handling mods and have an insanely fun car... That or buy a built one... I love my 300rwkw car, but if I had my time again I'd let some other sucker pay for it Well all im thinking of doing is changing the fuel pump and injectors. the afm, and when the time comes, a 350hp turbo. That there as you said should hopefully get to 250rwkw and il be stoked for a street car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hey guys, would the apexi SAFC2 be ok for the setup im wanting?? Theres a few here in the for sale section??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 For 300rwkw? No. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 For 300rwkw?No. max of 270rwkw Is there a cheaper alternative to the apexi power fc and comander??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snozzle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 nistune Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW-R34 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 nistune would i be ok doing my setup and getting nistune installed and obviously tuned when i am finished. Or would i need to have it installed before and tuned. do what i want to do and when finished have a retune. Budget is tight so if i could get away with leaving it till the end, that would be good???? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Soon as you changes things like AFM, injectors = retune. If you are on a tight budget, then simply you shouldn't even be aiming for 300rwkw to be honest. Settle for 250rwkw give/take with a bolt-on hi-flow turbo and just drive it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324609-500hp/page/2/#findComment-5290777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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