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archangel62

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RubyRS4 Grand Master

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Eli, does this event have a CAMS permit yet? I don't think CAMS would be happy with a combined drift/grip day. Have you got organised fire and ambos too, as well as the required CAMS licensed officials to be present?

If you've hired the track for the day, I'd like to know (as I'm sure others would also) these services were available if I were to attend such an event.

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archangel62 Apprentice

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TOMORROW IS NOW OFF!!! :D :D :)

Guys I'm really really sorry, got the call from Jo on Friday and haven't had time to get to a computer, it's been postponed as they just ran out of time and didn't have the people-power.

I'm a little disappointed, but on the other hand it does give us all more time to get the cars ready. I know some guys had actually booked accommodation up there and had been pulling all-nighters to get their cars ready, they're not happy at all, but lots of other are actually relieved at the extra time.

So yes, VERY sorry everyone, tomorrow is OFF, will keep you all posted.. But it's completely out of my hands at the moment.

Eli

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Oh and the former plan for the day was - no fire crew, but everyone will have their own fire extinguishers, and ambo's wouldn't be on site, but are literally about a minute down the road and "on call" for the event, ie notified and aware, and if possible, ready to go. This may deviate for future events but that was the plan.

As for CAMS and approving grip/drift, yeah I'm not quite sure how it did/will go down, but the initial plan was to only have one car on the track at once, thus eliminating any chance of an accident caused by a driver's technique, speed or mistakes. With solo runs, it wouldn't really matter if an Evo was four-wheel sliding at 150, and a 3K Corolla was just cruising around some cones at 50. But, worst-case scenario, we could divide it into sessions.

I have no idea how it will go down now, or when. I'm going to ask if we can wait until the venue, marshalls and CAMS are all completely ready, approved, accredited and ready to go, rather than have things left to do by other parties before the "deadline" of the event. Both TBMS and CAMS have been working real hard to make this happen, but sometimes things just don't go to plan. I'd rather all of the hard work's done before even announcing a date to avoid future issues like this.

Was tempted to head out to Lala tonight, but couldn't get a tow in time, plus there are a few tinkerings I'd like to do on the car first.

RubyRS4 Grand Master

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Sorry mate, I know you meant well, but I wasn't convinced this was arranged properly. Even a practice day/track day requires fire marshalls and an ambulance on standby (at the venue, not off the property) ... and liability issues (insurance) accounted for. Remember the saying that: motorsport is dangerous. Obtaining a CAMS permit shows you've got the services arranged and ready at the venue, and that CAMS officials are in attendance to provide support on the day (unless otherwise provided for my the venue. In this case, I don't think Tailem Bend does, but Mallala (Clem) can cover this, for a fee). Don't think I'm having a go at you ... I'm all for more track day opportunities, but not at any driver's safety.

Before you question my credibility, I've been a race official for the past 9 years (motorcycle and cars, local and interstate). I'm a licensed CAMS official (and competitor, holding a L2S licence) and I correspond with CAMS regularly. If you want any advice or contact details on who from CAMS is best to see to your needs, just shoot me a PM.

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Cheers for the info and advice RubyRS4, I definitely defer to the opinion of those with more experience. I wasn't organising any of that myself, I was just confirming entrants and trying to keep them happy around what I'm told is realistic. I did get a bit of a "yellow flag" that things might not be ready in time on Thursday, but I didn't want to throw doubt into the ring, as numbers were borderline and any sudden drop-outs could have killed the event.

I'm now encouraging organisers to take their time and make sure everything's ready to go before setting a date, so nothing gets rushed.

RubyRS4 Grand Master

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Cheers for the info and advice RubyRS4, I definitely defer to the opinion of those with more experience. I wasn't organising any of that myself, I was just confirming entrants and trying to keep them happy around what I'm told is realistic. I did get a bit of a "yellow flag" that things might not be ready in time on Thursday, but I didn't want to throw doubt into the ring, as numbers were borderline and any sudden drop-outs could have killed the event.

I'm now encouraging organisers to take their time and make sure everything's ready to go before setting a date, so nothing gets rushed.

Good to hear. Keeping everyone happy, and keeping everyone safe are worlds apart. :angry:

The most helpful guy I know at CAMS is Aaron and can be contacted at [email protected] if you have any queries on requirements/obligations/insurances for the day.

Likewise, the man to talk to about track/drift/motorkhana in Tailem Bend is Adrian, and he can be contacted at [email protected]

I recommend you contact these guys and get the full details on what is required. Even when you think you have all bases covered, its best to get more info. I did before our track day earlier this year, and was glad I did, as there can be conflicting info.

:P

Also, your planned sunday would have clashed with Round 3 of the Nissan Datsun Car Club SA motorkhana event held at the Monarto BigW location.

Other info to consider, if not already known:

A motorsport event will require between 2 and 8 officials depending on number of entrants etc. The Clerk of Course is the only official that needs to be licenced but he/she must have an Event Command licence. The permit fee for a single club event is $95 or $138 for a multiclub event. A club must be affiliated with CAMS to be issued with a permit. Tailem Bend can be hired for about $660 per day.

It also comes down to if the event is a speed or non-speed event. Check the CAMS website for more info ... or contact CAMS for better clarification.

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