Stock Rb25 Looking For 400+ Whp Proof

[R31Nismoid]

no, I'm talking right here, right now. Even with better fuels, you are failing.

Do you even know how to tune?

we don't need E85 & meth to make 400rwhp from a 500hp odd turbo (albeit poorly). We do it on normal 98RON unleaded.

See if we added E85 here to that, we'd make around 60rwhp more.

The fact that 3 pages on you have still not grasped the basic concept is nothing short of absurd.

[TiTAN]

Lol at using nitro methane in a street car. how did that go for you?

i have used it on mine, gives a good kick in the pants.

[STATUS]

im just telling him whats real

-instead of hateing he should be particpating.........

who knows what if this motor makes it to 600whp and lives

-i think its posible

look at our honda motors

a b20 is the thinest sleeves and people would crack the sleeves at 7-9lbs of boost......

for years thats what everyone though...

-now after our test we have quit a few of them at over 20-psi with 400+whp(stock block!)

-from this i say since a stock honda block with tiny rods and weak rod bolts can take 100hp per cylinder

why can t a rb25 factory turbo motor take 100whp per cylinder.......

yeah but US dyno's generally are the happiest dynos on earth..... i have had two freshly imported mustangs make big power in the states 530+hp and ran on my dyno and were missing 150rwhp.....

[zebra]

i have used it on mine, gives a good kick in the pants.

I mean straight Nitro Methane ( I.e Top Fuel, and Nitro Funny Cars)

[JonnoHR31]

why the hell would you run c26 than?

so your running e85 and have troubles with it pinging before reaching MBT?

if not, there wouldnt be any gain in running meth injection

[Revspeed]

Lol at using nitro methane in a street car. how did that go for you?

the most power 1.8 liter honda with oem parts

220whp with oem parts...........

171whp on 91 octane

220whp with our mix aka soysauce

[Revspeed]

no, I'm talking right here, right now. Even with better fuels, you are failing.

Do you even know how to tune?

we don't need E85 & meth to make 400rwhp from a 500hp odd turbo (albeit poorly). We do it on normal 98RON unleaded.

See if we added E85 here to that, we'd make around 60rwhp more.

The fact that 3 pages on you have still not grasped the basic concept is nothing short of absurd.

no you only gain about 30whp from e85

we ve tested over and over all our cars r on it even our budget drag car...

Well that is where you guys are clearly having issues.

We gain 30-40rwKW from E85 over out 98RON

[Revspeed]

QUOTE (Revspeed @ 2 Dec 2010, 05:03 PM) im just telling him whats real

-instead of hateing he should be particpating.........

who knows what if this motor makes it to 600whp and lives

-i think its posible

look at our honda motors

a b20 is the thinest sleeves and people would crack the sleeves at 7-9lbs of boost......

for years thats what everyone though...

-now after our test we have quit a few of them at over 20-psi with 400+whp(stock block!)

-from this i say since a stock honda block with tiny rods and weak rod bolts can take 100hp per cylinder

why can t a rb25 factory turbo motor take 100whp per cylinder.......

yeah but US dyno's generally are the happiest dynos on earth..... i have had two freshly imported mustangs make big power in the states 530+hp and ran on my dyno and were missing 150rwhp.....

thats the problem u need to have them dyno it on a dyno jet 240 the old ones that is not adjustable..................

dynodynamics

mustage dynos

dynopack

and the new dynojet r all adjustable

-the good old dynojet 240 is not..............period............

[Revspeed]

QUOTE (Revspeed @ 3 Dec 2010, 01:39 PM) why the hell would you run c26 than?

so your running e85 and have troubles with it pinging before reaching MBT?

if not, there wouldnt be any gain in running meth injection

my friend im telling u methanol makes power period................

on e85 u can give it alittle more timing but not much

on methanol u can give it alot more and run it leaner..........

here s an example on 9psi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Revspeed]

no, I'm talking right here, right now. Even with better fuels, you are failing.

Do you even know how to tune?

we don't need E85 & meth to make 400rwhp from a 500hp odd turbo (albeit poorly). We do it on normal 98RON unleaded.

See if we added E85 here to that, we'd make around 60rwhp more.

The fact that 3 pages on you have still not grasped the basic concept is nothing short of absurd.

did they run enuff octane doing the test?

what broke?

cracked pistons?

spun rod bearings?

u see

thats the info we need to push forward........

[JonnoHR31]

my friend im telling u methanol makes power period................

on e85 u can give it alittle more timing but not much

on methanol u can give it alot more and run it leaner..........

here s an example on 9psi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more timing isnt always better, but as a tuner you would already know that....

do you know what MBT means?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

lol... you talk about "pounds of boost" yet you never mention the size of turbo....

do you even know why i mention this?

[zebra]

on methanol u can give it alot more and run it leaner..........

HAHAHAHHAHA, Now I know you have nfi about tuning, Methanol cars need to be fkn rich to make power.

running lean or even Gasoline AFR's on methanol will make less power than Unleaded, might not ping, but wont make any power.

[GTScotT]

We gain 30-40rwKW from E85 over out 98RON

Nismoid stated 60rwhp.

Are you arguing that 30-40rwKW!!! is somehow much different?

60 x 0.75 = 45........................................... does this make sense?

Do you understand the relationship between HP and KW?

It seems you are struggling to take onboard the common knowledge that 400rwhp is jack all for these cars.

You have mentioned honda blocks cracking because of Xpsi of boost and made note of 200hp record breakers.

What sort of tuner are you and what do you actually tune? Serious question.

[R31Nismoid]

Nismoid stated 60rwhp.

Are you arguing that 30-40rwKW!!! is somehow much different?

60 x 0.75 = 45........................................... does this make sense?

Do you understand the relationship between HP and KW?

It seems you are struggling to take onboard the common knowledge that 400rwhp is jack all for these cars.

You have mentioned honda blocks cracking because of Xpsi of boost and made note of 200hp record breakers.

What sort of tuner are you and what do you actually tune? Serious question.

It seems to have merged my post with his LOL

I guess thats what i get for posting during the forum update

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

i figured as much

[GTScotT]

It seems to have merged my post with his LOL

I guess thats what i get for posting during the forum update

lol is this a credit revival for OP?

[JonnoHR31]

HAHAHAHHAHA, Now I know you have nfi about tuning, Methanol cars need to be fkn rich to make power.

running lean or even Gasoline AFR's on methanol will make less power than Unleaded, might not ping, but wont make any power.

depends how your reading it. if you use lambda or leave the wideband set to petrol you can run a leaner number with methanol but there will still be more fuel injected than the same afr/lambda on petrol as methanol has a very different stoich to ULP.

on the other hand if you set the wideband to methanol and tune to the same afr's as you would for petrol your right, it'd be way too lean

Edited December 6, 2010 by JonnoHR31

[brother_david]

How come a thread so many times ends up with one page of good stuff and three pages of 'non'-stuff

Im very intrested in the topic of this thread but somewhere it went from solid info to convincing HPs on hondas running loooow octane and HPs on E85 Skylines

[Revspeed]

How come a thread so many times ends up with one page of good stuff and three pages of 'non'-stuff

Im very intrested in the topic of this thread but somewhere it went from solid info to convincing HPs on hondas running loooow octane and HPs on E85 Skylines

ok guys lets get back on track

-motor is still very healthy

-its been beat on

here is a race that took like 45 min to do lol....(this past friday nite)

1-4 gear burn-outs and all lol......

-i say its time to up the boost.......................................

Edited December 6, 2010 by Revspeed