Car Won't Start

[patto87]

Hi guys,

I recently had the timing elt on my R33 GTS-T done and a week after the serice my car won't start. The best description I can give is that it turns over but still won't start. When the key is in the ignition the check engine light is on now as well.

Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated

Cheers

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

sounds like a flat battery.. Either get a new one.. Or check it with a multimeter.. alternatively.. Have you got a volts gauge?

[patto87]

No I don't. If the battery is flat won't all the electrics stop working, ie lights and stereo?

[MrStabby]

Re-seat the CAS plug?...Isn't the engine light always on when the ignition is on by the engine not running?

[SKITTLES]

No I don't. If the battery is flat won't all the electrics stop working, ie lights and stereo?

Not necessarily.

Some lights etc. may dim, but it's not until the battery is completely dead that the car accessories won't power on.

Try turning off everything (radio, fans, aircon) and try turn it on.

Try do a push start (put car in second gear, hold down clutch, take off handbrake and get your mate to roll the car for you. Dump the clutch and it should crank on. Make sure your key is in the "on" position.

Were your headlights dimming when you were turning on your car?

Was anything dimming when you turned on your car?

Did you car go er-er-er-er-er-er-er vroom when starting up?

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

^^^ exactly.. your car will have enough power to turn some lights, etc on but not enough to crank the car..

[patto87]

Not necessarily.

Some lights etc. may dim, but it's not until the battery is completely dead that the car accessories won't power on.

Try turning off everything (radio, fans, aircon) and try turn it on.

Try do a push start (put car in second gear, hold down clutch, take off handbrake and get your mate to roll the car for you. Dump the clutch and it should crank on. Make sure your key is in the "on" position.

Were your headlights dimming when you were turning on your car?

Was anything dimming when you turned on your car?

Did you car go er-er-er-er-er-er-er vroom when starting up?

As far as I remember the lights were fine, Went to the supermarket, came back to the car, it started then the revs kept going down untill it turned itself off. Now the engine cranks over but yea just seems its not getting the final kick to start it up.

Someone has suggested the mechanic may have cracked the crank shaft sensor? Is this a viable option?

Thanks for your suggestions people

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

take your battery out.. Go to a battery shop and they will test it for you.. It is the simplest and cheapest option as they would do this for free.. if your battery is fine.. report back here if this was your solution or if it's fine and go from there..

Edited December 6, 2010 by .:: GimpS-R34 ::.

[GTR-N1]

Went to the supermarket, came back to the car, it started then the revs kept going down untill it turned itself off.

The trouble is, that you went to the supermarket instead of Supercheap Auto.

Your car knew this. But you didn't.

Your car's pacemaker carked it > and now you have to resuscitate it with +ve to +ve/-ve to -ve

Intensive care is now required with a new battery.

[mad082]

how fast is it turning over? if it is turning over pretty much as fast as normal (or even just a touch slower) then your battery is fine and you have an electrical issue somewhere, such as the CAS.

[patto87]

how fast is it turning over? if it is turning over pretty much as fast as normal (or even just a touch slower) then your battery is fine and you have an electrical issue somewhere, such as the CAS.

Its turning at the usual rate which is why I'm thinking something electrical. I will try the CAS tonight

cheers

[mad082]

ok well if it's turning over as fast as normal then ignore all the posts above about being a dead battery (i dare say the missed the bit in your first post where you said the car is turning over and just not firing).

sounds like the CAS simply isn't registering that the engine is turning over, so not firing the ignition or the injectors. i think from memory you can test this theory by turning the key to the on position and removing the CAS from the motor (leaving it plugged in)and then spinning it by hand. you should hear the injectors click as they fire. not sure if you have to disconnect the ignition loom before doing this to stop the spark plugs firing. i can't remember.

[patto87]

ok well if it's turning over as fast as normal then ignore all the posts above about being a dead battery (i dare say the missed the bit in your first post where you said the car is turning over and just not firing).

sounds like the CAS simply isn't registering that the engine is turning over, so not firing the ignition or the injectors. i think from memory you can test this theory by turning the key to the on position and removing the CAS from the motor (leaving it plugged in)and then spinning it by hand. you should hear the injectors click as they fire. not sure if you have to disconnect the ignition loom before doing this to stop the spark plugs firing. i can't remember.

Thanks mate this has been really helpfull

Just need to finish work then go home and try

[patto87]

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for there help and let u kno where I'm at

Got a new CAS but that didn't fix it so I got a mate around who actually knows something about cars (coz I don't) and we checked the fuel line and it seems theres no fuel being pumped through

so we changed the filter an checked the relay but still no good so I'm looking at getting the fuel pump changed

had a crack at it but it looks like a complete pain in the arse so I'm going to try and tow it to a mechanic and get them to change it

Thank again for eveones input

[lukasr34]

let us know what happens as i think i have a similar problem.

[patto87]

Well last night I pulled the back seatout and tested the fuel pump the best I could ( take the wires out and see if the pump is getting 12 volts) and it is so now I'm tracking down a fuel pump to change

If it fixes it I will let you know

[patto87]

Sorry for the late notice but the fuel pump fixed it

[GTR-N1]

So glad to hear > I take back my comments about the battery then. Sorry.