Thurs Night 26/02/2004

[MJ]

glad you were able to drive your car home ska and it wasnt too badly damaged.

As others said it could have been alot worse.

Other then that had a great time thanks all hope to see ya next time

[NA_R33]

Had a great time fella's, cheers, SKA just let me know when u want to fix everything up.

[strutto]

Well once again a great turnout... Thanks to everyone for making the effort to show up each and every time...

I'm feeling for you Ska How did it look from behind? Put it this way, it was nearly 2 lines on that island I didn't know which way you were trying to go and then there was just tyre smoke everywhere... Succesfully avoided you though... Phew for me...

Avonlea has the right idea... You should be able to get everything you need off someones front cut... Keep your chin up! Plenty of people to help you out around here!!!

I spoke to Belgarion on his way home from Roma St... He got defected I hope everyone else got home safe and sound...

If anyone wants me to host their pics you can upload them here:

ftp://strutto.dnsalias.com

user: anonymous

pw: password

Also a big thanks to everyone for donating towards the SAU site... Prank should be mighty happy with us!!!

See ya's all at the next one!!

[Genesis®]

glad that you are ok, Ska.

[Ska]

Thanks everyone, Hey does anyone have a 17x8 235 rim I could borrow for a couple of months? Just I can probably afford the control arm, but not the replacement mag for a while?

Thanks in advance!

[NismoGirl]

James got defected???

Great night. Cept my car kept telling me to check my engine and I kept telling him that it was still there. Silly sinbad.

Looks like I'll be ringing Gav today :S

[Ska]

Must of been that Uber High Tech blue cold air intake flap

Defected eh, bugger that sucks!

[BelGarion]

exhaust too loud and low

podfilter too loud and not enclosed

bov causing too much noise (i talked my way outta emissions but unfortunatly it amounts to the same :|)

so, anyone know how to silence a 3inch turbo back with just a cat in it?

i think im gonna have to borrow someones exhaust

[Ska]

Bah what a load of crap!

There is nothing in the law about enclosing pod filters, I got this from QLD Transport when I was first looking at getting a pod:

Generally, the fitting and use of vehicle accessories (air pod) do not

require specific approval from Queensland Transport. As such, Queensland

Transport does not approve or disapprove the use of vehicle accessories.

However, Queensland Transport requires that vehicles continue to comply

with the standards set from when the vehicle is first supplied to the

market. Accordingly, the use of any aftermarket devices must not result in

deterioration of vehicle compliance with the applicable Australian Design

Rules.

The only regulation relating to air filters is contained in Queensland

Transport's Approved Inspection Station (AIS) Code Of Practice which states

that, "air cleaners must be fitted".

It is the responsibility of the driver of the vehicle to ensure that

emmisions levels are maintained.

It may be necessary to supply proof that the vehicle maintains the original

emmision levels.

If further clarification is required please phone our Vehicle

Modification's Unit on 3253 4851

But the blow off valve, well they got you on the sound:

|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|

|Engineering Instructions|Vehicle Accesories | |

|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|

Date Of 17/04/2 Date Of 17/04/20 No VA.06.04.0 Replaces/A

Issue: 002 Effect: 02 : 2 mends:

It has come to the notice of the Vehicle Safety and Industry Reform Section

that a common modification to vehicles equipped with a turbo-charger

installation is the fitting of an intercooler and a blow off valve.

Forced induction methods such as turbo-charging or super-charging have the

potential to substantially increase the power and performance of a motor

vehicle.

Apart from the engine itself, turbo-charging or super-charging affects four

main vehicle systems. These are exhaust emission controls, vehicle noise

suppression systems, braking system performance and driveline components.

Option 3 of Section LA of the Code of Practice (Light Motor Vehicles)

permits the fitting of turbo-charged and super-charged engines to light

motor vehicles in accordance with Schedule B of Section LA. A part of this

approval requires that a “Safety Upgrade” of the vehicle is implemented in

order to provide for the increase in vehicle performance.

Braking system performance and driveline components are addressed in the

upgrade requirements. Additionally, the modified vehicle must continue to

comply with the Australian Design Rules relating to emission controls and

noise levels to which it was originally constructed.

Whilst it is recognised that a large number of the vehicles referred to in

this instruction are factory fitted with a turbo-charger or super-charger

installation, considerable modifications are carried out to install the

intercooler, blow off valve and associated pipe work. The installation of

these components is acceptable, if fitted in accordance with good

engineering practice, i.e. it should not significantly affect the noise and

emission levels of the vehicle.

Installation of blow off valves/intercoolers are regarded as accessories

and do not require approval under Section LA of the Code of Practice (Light

Motor Vehicles). However, a number of vehicle owners are installing

additional “whistles” to the blow off valves (or alternative blow off

valves with whistles). This procedure has attracted Queensland Police

Service attention. A number of infringement notices have been issued to

vehicle owners for, it is understood, excessive vehicle noise. Whilst the

blow off valve in an unmodified state is of little concern, valves fitted

with a “whistle” attachment can be quite loud.

The Transport Operations (Road Use Management – Vehicle Standards and

Safety) Regulation 1999 requires that a person must not drive a motor

vehicle on a road if the vehicle’s silencing device has been modified so as

to reduce, or be likely to reduce, the effectiveness of the device. As

such, the silencing devices fitted to these vehicles have not been modified

and the noise is not attributed to the exhaust system.

The Transport Operations (Road Use Management-Road Rules) Regulation 1999

raises issues in relation to devices fitted to motor vehicles and excessive

noise emitted from motor vehicles, and is as follows:

Making unnecessary noise or smoke

S 291 (1) A person must not:

(a) start a vehicle, or drive a vehicle, in a way that makes unnecessary

noise or smoke; or

(B) wilfully start a vehicle, or drive a vehicle, in a way that makes

unnecessary noise or smoke.

Example of subsection (1)(a):

Driving a vehicle in a way that causes noise or smoke because of:

(a) disrepair of the vehicle; or

(B) the way the vehicle is loaded; or

© the condition, construction or adjustment of the vehicle’s engine or

other equipment.

Example of subsection (1)(B):

Driving a vehicle in a way that causes noise or smoke by wilfully and

unnecessarily causing the wheels of the vehicle to lose traction and spin

on the road surface.

S 291 (2) A person must not drive a vehicle to which a noisy instrument

is attached or on which a noisy instrument is used.

S 291 (3) The driver of a vehicle or a passenger in or on the vehicle must

not:

(a) ring a bell or sound a horn, except a horn or similar warning device

under section 224; or

(B) play or use a noisy instrument.

It would seem appropriate that the Road Rules legislation is relevant to

vehicles equipped with these devices and which are modified to allow

excessive noise to be emitted. The Queensland Police Service should be

utilizing the Road Rules to enforce the issue, and, the owner would need to

remove the device to avoid continually being issued with infringement

notices.

Inspectors Action:

Transport Inspectors are advised not to issue Defect Notices solely for the

reason of a vehicle being fitted with an intercooler or a blow off valve.

Any enquiries relative to this matter may be referred to the Road Use

Business Management Group on telephone number (07) 3253 4851 or (07) 3253

4778. Inspectors should telephone (07) 3253 4778 or 4308 for additional

information.

Good luck!

[BelGarion]

ah k, thanks for that cyrus, the bov is easy fixed, as i still have the stock one fitted ill just remove the hks one.

the big one that is gonna be hard is silencing the damn exhaust, specially hard with a manifold leak as well :|

[Ska]

Alrighty then, went to this site:

http://www.partslocator.com.au/

which is great for getting contact numbers, then did some ringing around and have a couple of questions:

1. Only some wreckers asked wether it was series 1 or 2, is there a difference between the two lower control arms?

2. Only one wrecker asked me wether it was Cast Iron or Steel, apparently the two parts are different and not interchangeable, so how can I tell which one I have?

That and I rang up about 10 places and the price really varies between $75 and $180, looking at buying through these guys:

http://www.panelhouse.com.au/

as they are by far the cheapest and free delivery anyone used them before?

Thanks again!

[Ska]

Hey did anyone get pics? I knew I asked someone to take a couple shots of the mag, dunno his name, but anyone get pics of the skid, etc?

[chaos]

was it bryanlee the little guy running around everywhere? he measured the skids in feet

[predator]

Mostly was too dark to take proper shots, as you can see from these brilliant pieces.

ska: they could well be cast iron. Mine has been replaced at some point... they look kinda cast. I think I remember hearing that the control arms between the R33 and aussie 200SX (s14) are the same. So if that is the case shouldn't be too hard to get them. I don't think its too difficult to replace them either, if you can get the parts maybe a 2 hour job. Bit of bitch, but well, shouldn't cost you too much in the end.

[Ska]

ooOOooOOoo cool, I _think_ I did brake for a long time before locking it up, was going to downshift, but when the ass end drifted to the left I didnt want to add any more sideways action. Hey strutto, how long before my brake lights lit up to when you started seeing smoke?

Be interesting to see how long the skids were, might go for a drive out there later on to have a look in the daylight what they look like, see if I can get a camera from somewhere

[chaos]

i only got one when the brissy group left milton then my batteries was ****ed and it was too dark at the first stop

[chaos]

i think bryan counted 37 feet not sure

[Ska]

Just got off the phone with Gav's, (looks over at NismoGirl) and confirmed they are pressed steel.

But also got told to look out for ones that have worn brushes, hmmm only brushes I am used to looking at are my hair and tooth kind, anyone got any pointers at what I should be looking for, and possible pictures/diagrams/anything?

Thanks.

[japtaxi]

Some pics are here

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ad.php?p=702555

included pic of ska's mag

[avalonea]

james, i can easly hook you up with a bolt in silancer for your muffler ;P~ talk to me bout it later. thats not big issue,

You blow of valve. well i have several eletronic solinods here still, that can be wired to a switch to open/close a vacume line. in other words . turn a hks style ( pull type ) bov OFF, there for not makeing it illigal

did you get a notice to go over the pits. or a report to police station, or jsut a driveveing defective car,?

`josh