Government To Ban Bullbars

[SKITTLES]

We've got it easy because we can build track cars with the mods we want, and drive on a track. But 4wders don't have that luxury.

Takeaction.4wdaction.com.au

Vote against it, even if youre not in the scene. I'm sure you can all sympathize for these guys.

[ras1983]

It's about bloody time. Unless you live in rural Australia and run the risk of hitting wild-life, you don't actually need a bullbar and they're nothing more than a hazard to other motorists and pedestrians.

[FrangaR33]

It's about bloody time. Unless you live in rural Australia and run the risk of hitting wild-life, you don't actually need a bullbar and they're nothing more than a hazard to other motorists and pedestrians.

+1 Its interesting that you cant have a Jaguar on the front of your car because its a pedestrian hazard yet you can have a bull bar which is much more dangerous.

[FineLine]

You get hit by a 4b and a bull bar is the least of your worrys.

Besides, where can I hang my spottys and my water bag.

[Yo-Yo]

You get hit by a 4b and a bull bar is the least of your worrys.

exactly my thought as well

I mean why make the extra effort & worthwhile cause of improving licensing requirements & driver training when it's easier just to ban something to appease the all important focus group

looks like they (in NSW at least) just couldn't let the whole banning lowered/raised vehicle bungle go & decided they'd make another band-aid policy to waste taxpayer funds on

I think it's funny the design rule they are proposing to change is called "GTR09." Conspiracy?

[hrd-hr30]

Summary of proposed requirements for vehicles and VFPS (bull bars)

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/files/Pedestrian_Safety_Requirement_Summary.pdf

• Where VFPS (bull bars) are fitted, the following would apply (see Table 2):

For vehicles not specifically designed for off-road use, such as passenger cars (eg Holden

Commodore, Toyota Camry) and 2WD light commercial vehicles (eg Ford Falcon utility,

Ford Transit van), a standard similar to the main bull bar standard as adopted in Europe

(2005/66/EC as incorporated in EC 78/2009) and similar to GTR 9.

For vehicles specifically designed for off-road use, such as 4WD passenger cars (eg

Subaru Forester), 4WD light commercial vehicles (eg Toyota Hilux) and 4WD Sports

Utility Vehicles or “SUVs” (eg Toyota Landcruiser, Landrover, Nissan Patrol), a

standard already established in Australia (Australian Standard 4876.1 2002). This

standard would be more design flexible and has already been partly adopted by NSW and

Victorian transport authorities.

The Australian Automotive Aftermarket Assoc called for Adoption of AS 4876.1 (2002) in the Industry Position Paper for Vehicle Front Protection Systems (VFPS) Bull Bars, June 2009. http://www.aaaa.com.au/files/issues/PositionPaperBullbars.pdf

These 4WD Action dickheads need to learn to read FFS. The Industry got what they wanted and there is no proposed ban on bullbars for 4WDs.

Edited February 2, 2011 by hrd-hr30

[Deano 1]

lol i have a 4x4, with a winch and a bullbar and spotties, and i drive it to and from work each day, i need a 4x4 to get onto building sites with materials.... i dont really need my bull bar when im in tow... but when i go away surfing/camping with GF/mates its a dam handy thing to have!

i would like to see the Gov try to ban bullbars on 4x4s, it would be basicly impossible, think of all the people it would affect, not only the people that have and use there bull bars, but the people that sell them, and make them! not including that no one would ever buy a winch again unless it was for a comp truck, and also the sales from spot lights would die out.... it just affects to many people!

the only way they could do it, is if they faise it out, eg all 2012 plated 4x4s cant not run a bullbar... that also would piss alot of people off......

[hrd-hr30]

THEY'RE NOT BANNING BULLBARS ON 4WDs!!!

maybe people will see it now?

[Yo-Yo]

only saw the link to the petition site, if they're not banning bullbars major over-reaction by those guys

[macdog]

lol i have a 4x4, with a winch and a bullbar and spotties, and i drive it to and from work each day, i need a 4x4 to get onto building sites with materials.... i dont really need my bull bar when im in tow... but when i go away surfing/camping with GF/mates its a dam handy thing to have!

i would like to see the Gov try to ban bullbars on 4x4s, it would be basicly impossible, think of all the people it would affect, not only the people that have and use there bull bars, but the people that sell them, and make them! not including that no one would ever buy a winch again unless it was for a comp truck, and also the sales from spot lights would die out.... it just affects to many people!

the only way they could do it, is if they faise it out, eg all 2012 plated 4x4s cant not run a bullbar... that also would piss alot of people off......

+1 totally agree with you.

think about ARB and all those other companies... they'd be fcked.

[Cowboy1600]

THEY'RE NOT BANNING BULLBARS ON 4WDs!!!

maybe people will see it now?

Quoted for truth.

And quoted cause I know how frustrating it is when people fly off the handle without knowing the truth and when you tell them, they totally ignore it and continue on their merry way.

There is no proposed legislation to ban bullbars. The heading of this topic is false and should be changed.

[GTRsean]

Yeah, just the one's you see on b&s ute specials etc with 4 yacht aerials etc!!!!

[Mayuri Krab]

Are they going to ban soccer mums from driving massive SUVs in the city (when they can't even park a Nissan Micra properly without hitting something...) any time soon?

I'll support that 100%

[eightsixboy]

Seriously wtf is the point in having a bull bar if you dont live in a country area, so sick of seeing soccer mums driving around in these massive tanks with bull bars on them, I say bout bloody time they banned them.

[DVS JEZ]

+1 Its interesting that you cant have a Jaguar on the front of your car because its a pedestrian hazard yet you can have a bull bar which is much more dangerous.

haha my landcruiser has a bullbar with a mack bulldog on the front, its a definate pedestrian hazard

[iamhe77]

Seriously wtf is the point in having a bull bar if you dont live in a country area, so sick of seeing soccer mums driving around in these massive tanks with bull bars on them, I say bout bloody time they banned them.

It is in case they go off road... you know, like up the gutter and onto the nature strip or something

[DELLER]

awesome news guy's i hate bull bars..

[Mayuri Krab]

It is in case they go off road... you know, like up the gutter and onto the nature strip or something

Smart thinking!

Didn't think of that... LOL

[bozodos]

hmm i'll be glad to see useless bullbars come off the front of passenger vehicles.

TBH real 4WD's like Patrols, Landcruisers etc are generally in a different league from jacked up soccer mum buses (ie Territory etc)

[warps]

TBH real 4WD's like Patrols, Landcruisers etc are generally in a different league from jacked up soccer mum buses (ie Territory etc)

That's as narrow minded a view as some of the stupid rules being bandied about.

FWIW my jacked up soccer mum bus (Pathfinder) spends more time offroad than 90% of landcruisers and patrols ever will. This was a month after I got it - 20k each way on a coal mine site every day. Out there you need good lights and at the minimum a nudge bar, as you WILL be running over wildlife.