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They're still offering something. And that's cheap, economical motoring. But if you can appreciate these things that make the cars worthy of existence, then you are a true enthusiast IMO.

I used to work in a car dealership that sold over 10 different car franchises on the same site which included proton, fiat & ssanyong (I was in the nissan then suzuki & mitsubishi departments) the protons would forever have issues like electronics not working, batteries dying, even being driven everyday etc. Cheap economical motoring should not have to mean expensive maintenance & things forever breaking

I can appreciate a good car no matter what the marquee but there is just no redeeming qualities of the three I mentioned from my first hand experience

Fiat isn't that bad, ssanyong is just pig ulgy but not too bad otherwise.

A rear badge fell off a fiat punto once as one of the salesmen was showing a customer around the car, didn't even touch the car just fell off on it's own accord & the service manager would tell me a lot of them were coming in for warranty claims etc.

To be fair the ssanyongs didn't seem to have any inherent issues mechanically (some models were old merc running gear) surprisingly the butt ugly stavic was a nice comfortable ride but I agree the styling let them down

back on topic;

again, good choice on the Beemer, especially since the yuppies tend to go for minis/audis these days :thumbsup:

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