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Ok, I have seen it in Option Vol. 100 and Option Vol. 117,

These are the Wangan high speed battles, cars going over 300 km/h.

I'm extremely interested in these and if someone has knowledge on a couple of websites/information sources about these high speed runs I would appreciate it.

Thanks :)

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Its true and it happens.. i remember returning from Narita airport. My host dad drove past a massive conbinee/fast food area and like GTRS, Supras and some altezzas were lined up parked on a weird angle ( 1 car taking 2 spots ) and all the guys chatting whilst drinking coffee.. kakkoiii~~!!! .. and then we left a good 10mins later.. two of the R32 GTRS gunned past us.. at a v.fast speed... over 180 for sure but not over 240 IMO. None the less, its really cool to watch it...

Interesting fact. Japans speed lienency is 20km over the speed limit. What is Victorias again fellow Skyline owners?? a pretty donut.. a lovely zero.. damn i want to go back to Japan... *sigh.. goddamn brack u F**K

"Interesting fact. Japans speed lienency is 20km over the speed limit"

I don't believe this to be true (and have seen the fines to prove it) - but, where I live, it does feel easy to get away with more - possible because (a) there aren't that many police, (B) the average cop car is a nissan march, © they chase you at the speed limit, (d) I've only ever seen one speed trap in my area, (e) It's a 'known fact' that the police "go to sleep" around 1am, (f) there are no fixed cameras. On the other hand, where I live, the highest speed limit is 50km/h - and in many places it's 40. Also - overtaking areas (broken lines) are few and far between - and almost non-existant on arterial roads.

To me it seems the Japanese government could save a fortune on speed limit signs since as far as I'm concerned no one obeys the speed limit (with a few exceptions like 90 year farmers in kei trucks :)) Even though most roads around here are a 40km/h limit, most people drive around the 60 km/h mark whenever traffic permits. We do have a couple of fixed speed cameras that I'm aware of both of which are on the main bypass through town, but the rest are just for keeping tabs of traffic and license plates (AFAIK). The police are few and far between in Japan, especially in the evenings and they do seem to turn a blind eye to most of the lesser motoring "offences"...

On the subject of wangan racing - its pretty common to see high powered cars rocketing around the Shutoko C1 late at night, but AFAIK very few people have ever been chased by the police for doing so.

Makes you wonder why the hell the police have those GTR cop cars for if they're not even gonna use them...:)

Now - there's an idea for Fast and Furious 3 - wangan racing with the cops chasing the bad guys in a nicely sorted R34 cop car...:(:P:D

(not that I'm a fan of Fast and Furious mind :):D:))

I live in Kobe and work in Osaka, and there are sh*tloads of fixed speed cameras on the high roads and main routes. The cops drive Toyota Crowns with big siren mount things on the top, and, although not having been pulled over myself, my friend has numerous times for speeding, being caught on camera and being pulled over the old fashioned way.

Mind you, Kobe and Osaka have a long history of car antics, and I think the cops are more aware of it here. But having said that, they're still nowhere near as strict as they are in Australia, let alone Victoria!!!

So noone has any websites or anything like that for further information? :'(
It's like touge, no one really puts up dedicated sites about street racing (unsuprisingly), and the sites that do refer to high speed runs are usually BBS type forums with guys using awful slang and typing things like v(@_@)v...

Although somebody might have something... not me though.

As already mentioned...WHY would anyone be dumb enough to be proud to broadcast illegal racing. Here's the facts, Yes the cops over here are lenient, but when they do decide to go after you they WILL catch you.

As Justin has mentioned over here in Kansai, the loop line (inner and outer), Route 43, Meishu, Hanshin, Hanwa expressway etc are full of cameras. Be it Speed or Surveilance, they are all lined up either above or beside the road. So they need not waste their time going after some tool racing on the highway. So why aren't they all caught, the clever use of swinging number plates which fold horizontally flat out of sight at high speed.

On the spot fines are generally in built up surbuban areas which are more dangerous as pesdestrains and people are always about.

Dave how are the GT-Rs out your way? I have only ever seen them on the Chugoku Highway. Over only seem to be used as highway patrol cars on the much larger interstate highways.

I should point out that I live in a rural area (on an island) - and as you can see, life is quite different in the city. Here's a few recent stories from friends who live on my island (there are 10 gaijin who do the same job as me here):

* A friend (who always drives too fast in his civic) was driving along one night when he became stuck behind a line of traffic. Impatient, he floored it and passed 5-6 cars - then discovered what was causing the slow traffic - a police car. The police flicked on the sirens and proceeded to chase... at the speed limit. Needless to say, he kept the foot down and kept driving. Luckily, he was going to quick for them to get the plates and he never had any further trouble.

* Another friend got caught running late through a red light (VERY common thing to do here) - she didn't realise the police were behind her. They chased her (loudspeakers screaming at her in japanese) and she finally got the message. The fine was only about 7000yen (which surprised me) - but they also rang up her work and she had to go through the embaressment of that. What's worse - the police waited for her the next day and followed her home. They caught her rolling through a stop sign (it was marked on the road but not with a sign - she treated it as a give way) - back to the police station and much more hell. Only the intervention of another gaijin with a japanese boyfriend sorted the issue out.

The moral to the last story: the japanese police can seem lenient - but when you do get caught, things can go very badly.

I think things vary a lot in Japan and they're especially dependant on where you live. Yes, there are loads more speed cameras in the bigger cities, but in my neck of the woods they are few and far between. As for the police, I've never been pulled over so no first hand experience. They do appear more lenient than the UK. One of the advantages of being a (new to Japan) foreigner is you can pretend you don't speak any Japanese and plead ignorance of the law which might get you off many minor offences...

...trouble is though, the more years you've been here the less likely that sort of thing will work :(

Funny thing about speeding in big cities - everytime I'm in Tokyo it seems theres so many lights, so much traffic and so many junctions that I'm lucky to get into 2nd gear before I have to stop again!

referenced to the website...there seems to be alot of that stuff from E2C. Who are a dedicated car club for exotics and very rare cars in Japan..."Exotic 2 Seater". They do alot of cruises around Japan and even had one criuse in Korea. Being a well respected club, I very much doubt they would be involved in much high speed street cruising.

  • 2 weeks later...

I recently had one of the guys from Garage Thrash out. He was a big Wangan runner in Saitama/Tokyo and has maxxed his T04R'ed 32R out at 3 bucks on the Wangan near Saitama. He was saying that the Garage Thrash demo 32R tops out at 3 bucks 20 on the Tokyo Bay Tunnel which apparently is the wangan of choice in the Tokes area these days.

He promises me some full on Wangan action in Tokes next year.

Also Shibata from R31 House promised to hook me up with the Masa Motorsport guys for some Winding SPL action.

Jash

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