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Sounds interesting.. Maybe its similar to the Redline ShockProof Gearbox Oil (not many people have heard of it or are willing to pay the price but damn it works like a charm).

I'd be interested to see/hear results of afew more cars yet tho...

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Can you say "Pyramid Scheme" with the franchises?????

Neways is a big name MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) company run by a couple Tom and Dee Mower. Of course since they got indicted for tax evasion to the tune of $3million USD they have admitted they "do not have anything to do with the company"... Except being the CEO i suppose thats true.

The funny thing about Neways, the company behind the "Roil" brand name, is the business model. If their product was any good why don't they sell it to retail stores? The reason is because their products are mostly cosmetics (think Avon lady) and the marketplace there is already saturated, by pushing their crap through "franchises" they branch out quicker using any marketing form their franchisee can lay their hands on.

This means SPAM SPAM SPAM for us. Neways can get away with it because it's "not their fault", if someone complains about a marketing campaign (like spamming a forum for example) then Neways can just cry "it was the franchise" and cut that one person off. 5 more spring up in their place anyway so who cares?

I guess this product might be ok, but it's not revoloutionary and i bet there are already 10 products on the shelf of your local Supercheap that do the exact same thing with the exact same ingredients but cost $8 a bottle, but you dont use those because they dont have some guy selling them to you with a hat full of "testimonials" ...

Can't be said any better! Honestly i'll put it this way... do you guys beleive that both s13driter and myself are going to promote a product that doesn't actually work, I've already offered to give it to anyone at wholesale (a great big wopping $35) and pay for postage there if they promise to give us a full report on what it did (or didn't do) for their car. So this means i've got nothing to make and everything to lose if roil isn't acutally 150% of what i'm claiming it is!

To magic beans boy ill say this: Obviously the editor of jaguar magazine acutally hates jaguar's and wants to see all of them blow up once they all add roil to their engines; Rosco the australian land speed record holder actually had a death wish when he added Roil to his rocket powered car because he know it infact will eat away at high temperature bearings; FedEx in the US actually get an extra 3.5 mpg because they installed a hybrid electric motor in their trucks at the same time they added roil! And to Bass Junky, yes your right, Neways slipped through when every other illegal pyramid scheme was banned in the 80's... as did this one...

CEO

Directors

Managers

Supervisors

Underpaid Workers

Sorry for the sarcasm... but guys... be skeptical... not critical!

Better still... if three ppl who have more than say 500 posts wanna gimme their full details and promise to right up a full report on it... i'll send you all out a bottle free!!! Have i possibly got anyelse to lose if this doesn't work!

Neways is a big name MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) company run by a couple Tom and Dee Mower. Of course since they got indicted for tax evasion to the tune of $3million USD they have admitted they "do not have anything to do with the company"... Except being the CEO i suppose thats true.

The funny thing about Neways, the company behind the "Roil" brand name, is the business model. If their product was any good why don't they sell it to retail stores? The reason is because their products are mostly cosmetics (think Avon lady) and the marketplace there is already saturated, by pushing their crap through "franchises" they branch out quicker using any marketing form their franchisee can lay their hands on.  

This means SPAM SPAM SPAM for us. Neways can get away with it because it's "not their fault", if someone complains about a marketing campaign (like spamming a forum for example) then Neways can just cry "it was the franchise" and cut that one person off. 5 more spring up in their place anyway so who cares?

I guess this product might be ok, but it's not revoloutionary and i bet there are already 10 products on the shelf of your local Supercheap that do the exact same thing with the exact same ingredients but cost $8 a bottle, but you dont use those because they dont have some guy selling them to you with a hat full of "testimonials" ...

Damn, you must have "Googled" the same things I did. Nice to know someone else does extensive research on things in our forum. :rofl:

Honeslty buddy... that's a real great story and all... but i think you made 99% of it up... The only bit you got right was the founders tom and dee mower... Where you got that tax thing i'd love to see... and as for claiming to have nothing to do with the company, the fact that they both write a column in every monthly company magazine doesn't speak much for your case...

And as for the rest of it... u sure ur not thinking of Amway?

Guys i'm happy for 3 of you to trial it for free... if it sounds too good to be true then try it, find out for yourself... and MML isn't a pyramid scheme for this simple reason... i earn more money than my sponsor because i put more effort in... and that's only fair! What isn't fair is how a CEO who puts the same hours in as an ordrinary worker earns up to 10 times as much...

Well dude, if your making money off this and you make a thread on here (i wanna say "selling" but wont) informing us about this product then how is that kosher.

Prank needs to receive a donation before a business can sell their wares here i think.

As for the product im sure its grand but i wont be putting any in my engine any time soon, not even for free. Thanks for the generous offer though, if i could i would choose to donate the $35 it would have cost you to the website :rofl: :rofl:

As for "making it all up" its all out there on the web, you will be able to find it yourself if you google a little bit. I don't believe everything i read on the web mind you but why should i believe some things (your testimonials) and not other things (these Anti-MLM sites). They seem evenly weighted to me. :shrug:

Yeah sponsor... the person who took me... trained me... showed me the light... and who has a vested interest in me becoming succesfull... y? Because if i'm not they're not... U'll never get that in traditional business because no one above you wants to train you to be better than them because then you threaten their job!

When you were at mlmwatchdog did you see this page:

http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/RC_HR1220_RiverWalk.html

Is that supposed to be comforting for SAU members? When it comes down to it, it is each to their own, but when you say things like “is not an oil additive as such” when you add it to you oil, and “Where you got that tax thing i'd love to see” when it this information is readily available on the Internet, it personally makes me think twice about the integrity of the product and the people who earn more than their sponsors.

Watch out, after he sells you a bottle of the snake oil he will be trying to get you to fork out for a franchise of your own. So you too can "get rich quick".

IMHO, if the stuff was any good at all it would be available in the shops, if it was as good as he claims then either a major car manufactufer or oil company would have bought it out.

Keep using high quality oil and make those changes at 5000km, you'll be right.

Fair enough... if that's wot you believe that's fine... i'll drop it now...

Please don't drop it on my account.

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Good luck to you.

:rofl:

Cmon guysm u r all talkin bs now.

Lets get back to the facts. JetPilot is willin to let 3 of us trial the product for free. Obviously he stands behind his product and believes it does work. He even offered me a free trial, and i am one of the skeptics, so u know i will give a non-biased view on whether it works or not.

Basically what im gettin at is give him a break atm. Geezz, he is offereing a newish product that many of us havent heard of before. Like Benm said, not many people have heard of redline, yet they are one of the best lubricant brands around.

So heres what i propose, stop the knockin, wait till i give u a review, then u can make up ur minds. I dont think jetpilot would go to such lengths to prove him correct if the product was a sham.

500 years ago, if you telling people earth is a ball, chance is you might get head chop off, so why so scare the new product?

Also does not matter how he makes money, as long as the product do what he promise..and I am willing to try..jetpilot1896..semd me the PM..

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