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I bet if you ask them though, we're going to Hell, and they're going to paradise.

Ain't religion grand? Can't even decide amongst yourselves who's going to Hell and who isn't...

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I've got a spare 9.5 +20 with 235/40/18 tyre sitting here, NE suburbs also

Cheers man, I'll let you know if Jap_Star can't help out.

Looking for some pretty 'soft' fitment compaired to my past wheels as I will be towing with this car :P

18x9 +30 will stick out the back 10mm and the front I'm not too sure yet.

Cheers guys

lets get things straight Christianity is an offensive religion

its not meant to be politically correct its not meant to be all roads lead to heaven its 1 act of horrendous kindness of the father asking his son to lay down his life for us so we might be reconciled with God

Andrew is right all the Christians we have on the boards here have never pushed their beliefs down anyone's throats i have enjoyed reading a lot of what you think.

Think of this also we all like to deem ourselves as good people yeah? Well if i have accepted Jesus as my savoir and i am going to heaven but its turns out to be untrue I've led a good and peaceful life, on the hand if it is true then it will be a shame to have so many people missing from heaven because they didn't take the time to see if it was true

Would you mind if I tested the fitment on my car?

I wont be home till next week sometime, hopefully.

But I'm also NE ways.

Cheers

Yep too easy. Just send me a PM and ill send my mobile number. Cheers

I KNOW I wont land in 'hell' simply because during my human life I didnt accept the word of other Humans that there is a supreme deity. I'll find out for myself thank you very much. By living a good and just life I KNOW I will end up in one of the various planes of spiritual existence, and it is THERE that I'll have the opportunity to find the TRUTH....and that boys & girls is MY faith. Is it really all that different to the faith of a believer-in-God ?

Frankly, how DARE anyone suggest someone like the Dali Lama, who follows Buddhism, would wind up in hell after living a life filled with goodness, greatness, kindness, etc. How is that possible when he, and the Dali Lama's before him, claim to be reincarnated?

Can you really tell Hiroshita, who follows his religion of Shinto, that while he lives a just and beautiful life like that of a Holy man, respects his environment around him, and causes no unjust, that he is going to Hell for not accepting the word of Men that their supreme deity is the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

It may be so that I find 'my Maker' upon the exhaulation of my last breath, but my faith in my ability to lead a good, just, fair & wholesome life FAR outways the fear-factor that we've read right here in these past few pages that Im damned for all eternity. Yes, that offends me. If there is in fact a supreme being then I'll find out in my own way, once I pass on to the spiritual planes of existence. Its there that we ALL have the opportunity to right our wrongs.

Think of this also we all like to deem ourselves as good people yeah? Well if i have accepted Jesus as my savoir and i am going to heaven but its turns out to be untrue I've led a good and peaceful life, on the hand if it is true then it will be a shame to have so many people missing from heaven because they didn't take the time to see if it was true

Atheists are good people with morals too. They don't have a book to guide them and their behaviors, but still manage it.

If when I die I find there really is a God, and I've been wrong, I'll accept that.

If that deity chooses to punish me (hell) for relying on a scientific approach in my life - rather than blindly believing - whilst continuing to live a moral existance, treating people fairly - then that's not a deity that I would choose to worship anyway.

In other news, props to Matty T for taking the day off of work and driving to pirie to coming and save me this morning, just got the car in the driveway.

Now, time to swing some spanners and get the turbos off. The car has a pretty rough idle and blows some smoke but still has oil pressure. Definite loss of compression, it was a battle between slipping the clutch and wheelspin to get the car up on the trailer.

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