Stock R34 Airbox Power Limits

[simons987]

Hi Guys,

I have briefly searched the forum to try and find out the limits of a stock r34 gtt Airbox. I remember R31Nismoid mentioning he can get over 300awkw out of his r33 GTR with his stock airbox. I'm currently in the process building my 34 with a GTX3076R and Tomei Cams 260. Trying to keep the car stock looking as possible but obtaining that 300rwkw. Can anyone provide any insight if the airbox can handle 300rwkw with a decent filter.

There is also a thread I have been trying to look for!!! It is a DIY making your own snorkal. I saw it once and can not find it again. If someone can kindly post that link up for me would be much appreciated

[R31Nismoid]

GTR and GT-t not quite the same dude far as I am aware.

I'm not up with GT-t airboxes, but do they have the side feed from the guard like GTRs? (GTR items will do well over 300rwkw)

There are a few guys on 280rwkw with stock R33 GTS-t airboxes so your GT-t airbox in theory should be ok.

Some have made over 300 but i believe that wasn't on PUMP fuel, E85 was used.

Guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually try and do some back to back

[simons987]

Thanks R31Nismoid for the quick post,

It has got the snorkal setup coming from the nose, comparing my mates R33 GTR Airbox to my stock box the GTR is around 20% larger.

Once I finish the car and take it to the dyno I will post up my results.

Edited May 30, 2011 by simons987

[Harey]

With the R34 GTT and R33 GTS-T's you need to replace the rubber hose between the airbox and the front of the turbo. This will suck shut over around 230rwkw and limit power greatly. With a metal custom pipe the factory airbox is not a bad thing, I know of people making 250rwkw on 98 fuel and 280rwkw on E85 with a stock airbox but metal pipe. The only problem is that the metal pipe has to custom and is quite a tricky angle. Because it is a fixed airbox it has to fit in the right spot at the right angle. Its different to a pod as obviously it can sit anywhere.

Another guy on here has the top half of an airbox and snorkel and a pod sitting underneath it.

Are you looking at it from a looking standard for cops point of view or dont care? I would only go to the effort if your worried about cops. Otherwise I think its a lot of effort. I have heard of people saying 10rwkw loss around 280rwkw but dont have proof.

[W0rp3D]

when mine was on the dyno for comparison sake it made 251 with the box and the mod i did (see below) and then made 256 with no lid on at all.

another mod that ppl do is to drill a hole in the bottom of the airbox and run a pipe down through the vacant cooler pipe hole (assuming you have your return pipe over the radiator) with a pod on the end of it.

The general figure i hear is that the standard box max's out at about 250rwkw.

[simons987]

Thanks for the feedback guys

That rubber pipe did my head in lol on my old turbo setup I ran into that problem. After I replaced the pipe I didnt have any problems. Pipe bending and fabrications work isn't a problem. I have all the gear at home for fab work.

Yeh I'm in a really bad area sunshine. Theres a blitz that goes on once a week at least around the area. Having a stock stealth looking setup will improve my chances for not getting done.

Wow only a 6kw gain when removing the pod, that kind of information brings my confidents up I won't get any choking when doing the dyno.

I am thinking about customizing the airbox in either 1 of 2 ways

1. The top part of the filter where the snorkal is located, the piece the snorkal fits into I will cut that out and customize it to take up the whole left section of the box. Then I will create a custom Snorkal to suck up all the air from the nose.

2. The old intercooler hole on the far right side I will run a pipe going up into a custom bottom end of the airbox. I will then install a pod inside the box and have both snorkal and piping at the bottom bringing in air.

I'm more inclined doing the first as it requires less customizing to the box. With an oil based airfilter the CFM of air shouldn't be a problem.

Edited May 31, 2011 by simons987

[Harey]

Yeah 6kw at a ~250kw level, but obviously will get greater at higher power levels. I have heard ~10kw at 270kw which yes it not massive but a decent gain.

[Chris32]

Thought I'd dig this up and see what the outcome was.

I'm finding the big differance compared the the GTR airbox is that the snorkel on the GTT feeds the top half of the airbox, while the GTR feeds the lower half - making it way easier to open up the GTR airbox and get it flowing better.

Any airbox mod to the GTT has to be done to the top half, which will look a bit more obvious / possibly not work as well.

Looking at my airbox, the inlet is tucked right into the corner, with lots of plastic ribs close to the location of the airflow meter. Anyhow, if you guys had any decent results with the stock box I'd be keen to hear

[34GeeTeeTee]

Thought I'd dig this up and see what the outcome was.

I'm finding the big differance compared the the GTR airbox is that the snorkel on the GTT feeds the top half of the airbox, while the GTR feeds the lower half - making it way easier to open up the GTR airbox and get it flowing better.

Any airbox mod to the GTT has to be done to the top half, which will look a bit more obvious / possibly not work as well.

Looking at my airbox, the inlet is tucked right into the corner, with lots of plastic ribs close to the location of the airflow meter. Anyhow, if you guys had any decent results with the stock box I'd be keen to hear

You are probably best just to ditch it and run an alloy box like i have, really depends what turbo and piping you have to deal with as to how much hassle it will all be?

[Chris32]

You are probably best just to ditch it and run an alloy box like i have, really depends what turbo and piping you have to deal with as to how much hassle it will all be?

Yeah I'll have to check out your build thread! You pop up allot when it comes to GTT mods

[34GeeTeeTee]

Yeah I'll have to check out your build thread! You pop up allot when it comes to GTT mods

They might be of interest haha