2014 Sa Elections - Could We Elect Someone?

[Iron Chef]

I got chatting to someone the other day about politics and how car enthusiasts' interests, in our opinion at least, are woefully under-represented in Parliament.

The Libs are certainly open to the idea of things like the Motorplex, which is a big plus over Labor in my opinion, but then again, it wouldn't be the first time politicians went back on their word if they changed their mind about it after the election...

Nick Xenophon, as an example, ran as an independent in the Upper House (Legislative Council) on his No Pokies platform, and because he held the balance of power there, was able to achieve a huge amount for his own cause because he had the Labor party of the day by the balls - "if you want me to vote this through, you need to do this" kind-of thing.

So this got me thinking - why can't we do the same?

At the 2011 election, a few independent politicians attempted half-heartedly to jump on the motoring enthusiasts' bandwagon late in the piece, but they were generally trying to win seats in the Lower House, and because of the way electorates are split, had no luck whatsoever.

If it's going to be successful, we have to put all our resources into making sure one or possibly two people get into the Upper House, which is based on votes received right across South Australia. From that perspective, we need to be co-ordinated, and start planning as of now.

So this thread is designed to get some discussion going, and see what you guys think - do you think the collective motoring enthusiasts of South Australia could get one or two independent candidates over the line? Is this idea completely insane?

[Tangles]

TBH Id be happy to step up to the plate.............

Must look into whats required to register as an independent candidate, to run for the Upper House.

[Bl4cK32]

look into changing the way defects / regency works and im sure you would have a lot of votes too, which i would support.

[Tangles]

Bring in 'mod plate laws' similar to Qld, have a motorsport complex signed off by the Govt, roads made 'safer' (quality) by ensuring funds raised by drivers ie fines go back into the roads fund rather tha line the Govt's coffers......

[scandyflick]

Vote 1, Iron Chef?

I reckon it's a solid idea.

[Aberax]

Vote 1, Iron Chef?

I reckon it's a solid idea.

I would

[Iron Chef]

Calm down, I'm just putting the idea out there, not running for President

[Madaz]

hahahaha too late election has been held you will be notified by mail where you can pick up the keys to your new living quarters

[J - Rad]

Yeah I'd actually vote for Kristian too. Career change bud?

[On Edge]

I was involved in the 2010 election supporting Councillor Joe Ienco who is a very well respected member of the community who was endorsed by the Adelaide Motorplex group.

Almost literally with another handful of votes we would have had our representative. Should he run again, we can most certainly get him in an have an avenue to achieve our wants/needs with the support of all enthusiasts.

[SLED]

The idea of getting behind an established polly that isn't soley driven by personal agendas is not an insane idea at all.........problem is, trying to find one that has been passionate about the Motorplex from day 1 and still is.

Anyone have a name they can throw into the hat that can be approached by us.

I'd be happy to get behind someone like that collectively.

[Damo_R34]

Im just going to draw a box and write "Iron Chef"

[SLED]

This is Joe Lenco's current policy but no mention of a Motorplex.

MY POLICIES:

JOE IENCO___________Lets put our community first!I look forward to representing the residents of Findon Ward as your Councillor.My wife and I run a business based in Flinders Park, and with our two older children, live in Findon Ward.I have lived and worked in our local area most of my life, and been involved in many local sporting, community and charitable groups.My commitment to you is to listen, work hard, keep rates as low as possible, scrutinize expenditure, look after our environment and ensure older and more vulnerable residents are looked after.My aim is to be a part of Council that is united, working together with a positive vision for the future to improve Kidman park, Findon, Seaton and Fulham Gardens.I am not a member of any political party so I put residents' wishes first.

Having said that, here is a past thread endorsing his interest in a Motorplex.

My question is, is he still passionate about it or was it a ploy for a seat?

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/309632-joe-ienco-officially-endorsed-upper-house-candidate-to-fight-for-adelaide-motorplex/

[Dohmar]

Was thinking about this the other day. Seems theres a dearth of policy - maybe we should write our own policy and lobby hard till it gets adopted?

Problems?

- roads in state of disrepair (BIGTIME! Ever been interstate?)

- roads designed 30 years ago inadequate for modern levels of traffic

- side barriers, speed traps help slow people down but speed cameras and 50kph zones do nothing except raise revenue

- drivers are not periodically tested for their licences and the current rules are extremely insufficient

- shitbox cars (ie the ones that actually deserve a defect) are not sufficiently policed

- imported cars under grey legislation are under scrutiny that is sometimes ambiguous due to the lack of company ADR compliance

- defect scheme is a cash cow and doesnt solve the problem of modifications

- political posturing does not save lives and both parties need to admit this - support must be more than partisan if it is suspected to pass

- no venues within 100km of the cbd for motorsports - motorsport complex will attract regular high profile events as well as a driver training venue

- more safety measures from a motorcyclists pov should also be taken into account

Possible Solutions?

- use revenue from speeding, drink driving, lack of rego/etc exclusively for upkeep of the roads and driver training.

- feasibility studies to upgrade adelaide to a specification that will account for another 30 years of growth - this may involve more o-bahn/trains or tunnels/overpasses

- enthusiast car clubs could possibly volunteer to map the roads on cruises and could point out inadequecies on specific roads and locations

- mandatory 10 year licence test up till the age of 60, then every 5 years. Abolish the logbook method of obtaining P plates. Introduce defensive driving courses as standard with the L plate scheme, with advanced driving courses encouraged.

- implement a modification plate scheme like in the eastern states

- make regency inspections a taxpayer paid expense (ie rego and third party)

- implement an independant lobby body for the sake of motorists. RAA is corrupt.

Would be nice if we could convince the govt that part proceeds from a motorsport complex would easily pay for the driver training venue

Suggestions?

$0.02

-D

[Matty Sherlock]

+1 dohmar. Particularly with your ideas regarding those entering the driving.

This thread is great! Would be good to see something come out of it.

[Shazza24]

TL:DR, Iron chef for pres, sorry Sled. Tangles for V-P. Have wanted to be a member for a long time like many others in SA but there is no I.Q. test, (etc or internet I.Q. test) so i will remain on the outer until it happens.... LOL

Too many cork heads lately if you know what i mean..... ((5 x 28 day impounds) + 1 to be caught).....

[On Edge]

This is Joe Lenco's current policy but no mention of a Motorplex.

Having said that, here is a past thread endorsing his interest in a Motorplex.

My question is, is he still passionate about it or was it a ploy for a seat?

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/309632-joe-ienco-officially-endorsed-upper-house-candidate-to-fight-for-adelaide-motorplex/

He sure is passionate about it pete, I know this for sure, he currently is a City of Charles Sturt Councillor

I would know as I am his son.

He knows many influential political identities an deals with them on a constant basis for the best interests of the community, an can relate to the everyday citizen.

He is active in the movement for the establishment of the motorplex with the consortium.

Ill post up more information soon.

[Iron Chef]

Dohmar you're on the money, good discussion starting here

[Dohmar]

Sounds like a good cause to get involved in way before the election smut starts...

We need to see some policy tho. Simply saying 'I'm pro car' isn't good enough. We need actual plans to get stuff rolling and this will involve many people, from the motorplex consortium, to manufacturers, to mechanics and other people whos livelihood/income will be affected, as well as getting the policy RFC'ed past sapol to see what the popo have to say. (because politicians will ignore police advice whenever it's politically convenient).

My main gripe is the lack of decent surfaces and lack of barriers - and I figure if you're going to go to that detail, make it biker friendly so the stuff that happens to some of the bikers out there doesnt end up being a fatality.

I'd also love to propose modifying that 50kph limit when unsigned and returning it to 60kph. NFI if that would pass though.

-D

[Madaz]

yeah and to get the older persons vote you need to have the motor complex way down the list but its high on the priority

make roads safer more disabled parking around facilities

where possible dual carriage ways (unlike this crap Churchill rd upgrades they re tar a very busy rd but make huge choke points all the way along it

lower north east rd needs to have the dual carriage way extended all the way to handcock rd

little things like this to help traffic flow

couldn't agree more on 60kph