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Hello,

I'm looking for a swaybar kit for my R33.

Someone recommended Whiteline, are they any good?

http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segue4.php?make=Nissan&model=Skyline&model_final=SKYLINE+R33+GTS%2C+GTS-T+2WD&vehicle=1%2F93-12%2F98

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail4.php?part_number=BNF24Z

Thanks :)

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I THINK the front was a 24mm adjustable and the rear a 20mm fixed? I'm not 100% sure as it was customer supplied but the front was an adjustable bar.

I personally like the idea of the (F) 27mm fixed and ® 22mm fixed if it was my personal street car.

Daleo Grand Master

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I THINK the front was a 24mm adjustable and the rear a 20mm fixed? I'm not 100% sure as it was customer supplied but the front was an adjustable bar.

I personally like the idea of the (F) 27mm fixed and ® 22mm fixed if it was my personal street car.

The front would have been a 24mm; BNF24Z

The 27mm BNF27Z is recommended for motorsport only by Whiteline; it's a very big increase. I think on the street you'd probably end up with too much understeer; especially in the wet.

The feedback I have had from the 24mm bar is excellent

Thanks,

Not sure if I need it adjustable, though they seem to be the same price as non-adjustable.

Are these bars protected from corrosion?

The adjustment is very nice to have, you'll likely set and forget, but for no extra spend; it's certainly nice to be able to finetune to your own taste and to the behaviour of your coilovers.

I've delivered well over 60 sets of Whiteline bars to people on this forum, and I've never had a complaint about the quality. I've fitted several sets, and the fit has been excellent. I personally inspect everything prior to shipping, and I've never found a fault yet.

They are powdercoated in a Silver/ Blue metallic, and as long as you are careful when fitting, the powdercoat will provide excellent protection against corrosion. It is flexible, but will take a knock without chipping; like a painted bar will.

I notice you're UK based, so I can't help you with a Group Buy; but if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a PM

Cheers, Dale.

Torques Mentor

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Thanks for the input, if they're powder coated I will have no issues with corrosion.

Yes, I am UK based so not really an option for an Australian group buy.

So possibly 24mm front, 22mm rear.

I use the car mainly on the road, not on the track.

So no need for Motorsport-Type sway bars.

Also I want to maintain a somewhat comfortable overall experience, especially with the poor roads in the UK.

Daleo Grand Master

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Thanks for the input, if they're powder coated I will have no issues with corrosion.

Yes, I am UK based so not really an option for an Australian group buy.

So possibly 24mm front, 22mm rear.

I use the car mainly on the road, not on the track.

So no need for Motorsport-Type sway bars.

Also I want to maintain a somewhat comfortable overall experience, especially with the poor roads in the UK.

Sounds like you have roads much like most of ours, you won't go wrong with those choices.thumbsup.gif

GTSBoy Grand Master

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FWIW I have 24mm adjustable on the rear and 24mm fixed on the front, and I wouldn't have less stiff bars than that. Rears are set to the softer setting, not that it's hugely softer than the harder setting. Car is not tail happy, so I think it would be more understeery if I'd put the 22mm on the rear. This is an R32, which is what, 80(?) kg lighter than a 33. I'd recommend not getting a 22mm for the rear.

Torques Mentor

Torques

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I hear you, but in the UK they have the usual potholes plus(to make matters worse)

Speed-Bumps and Speed-Tables.

Potholes are from mere neglect, but the Bumps/Tables are just evil ..

Often the local council is not in line with regulations and the Speed-Tables are way too high.

(You can tell by the impact markers of sorry oil pans)

That's why I don't want to lower my car much (have not decided on the right coil-overs yet)

I wonder where all the tax $$$ go ;)

As for the sway bars, I will see that I can find a distributor in the UK.

Good nite!

GTSBoy Grand Master

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Speed humps and tables have no effect on sway bars, or more to the point, sway bars have no effect on the car's suspension when hitting a bump with both wheels at the same time, a la speed bumps and tables. And I wouldn't be choosing sway bars because of the presence or absence of potholes either. If there are potholes in a road, you probably won't be driving hard enough for stiffer sway bars to cause you to go off line anyway. Here in Australia we have many country roads which have a lot of broken bitumen, wrinkled bitumen and tree roots causing severe short pitch undulations in the surface. It is under these conditions that stiff suspension, and in particular stiff sway bars on top of stiff spring rates, can cause the car to be too jiggly to hold the road well. This because you often hit such an lump with only one wheel at a time. Despite this, I still vote for the 24mm adjustable rear bar as a better choice than the 22 fixed.

Torques Mentor

Torques

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Thanks,

I was just elaborating on the pothole situation, had nothing to do at all with me buying swaybars.

And I hear you on 24mm....

Hitting one of these obstructions with just one wheel is always a pain..

So when choosing the new coil-overs I will take road conditions into consideration.

Any suggestions?

Speed humps and tables have no effect on sway bars, or more to the point, sway bars have no effect on the car's suspension when hitting a bump with both wheels at the same time, a la speed bumps and tables. And I wouldn't be choosing sway bars because of the presence or absence of potholes either. If there are potholes in a road, you probably won't be driving hard enough for stiffer sway bars to cause you to go off line anyway. Here in Australia we have many country roads which have a lot of broken bitumen, wrinkled bitumen and tree roots causing severe short pitch undulations in the surface. It is under these conditions that stiff suspension, and in particular stiff sway bars on top of stiff spring rates, can cause the car to be too jiggly to hold the road well. This because you often hit such an lump with only one wheel at a time. Despite this, I still vote for the 24mm adjustable rear bar as a better choice than the 22 fixed.

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Torques Mentor

Torques

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Hi,

I don't know ...

And what are HD-Links anyway?

:)

I just started to look at my car's suspension, so not familiar with all aspects of it.

(I did the engine, so now suspension)

Do the kits come with the option of HD Links?

If so, get them.

I did that with the Whiteline RSB on my Subaru Forester - greater reassurance.

Daleo Grand Master

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Do the kits come with the option of HD Links?

If so, get them.

I did that with the Whiteline RSB on my Subaru Forester - greater reassurance.

Hi Terry, they are definitely a worthwhile upgrade,

You'd be going from this; post-61153-0-51063500-1326575041_thumb.jpg

To these; KLC108.jpgtn_KLC109.jpg

No rubbers to wear out and get squeaky, miles more responsive, it's win all round.:thumbsup: They're completely service free and quiet as a mouse. Even on OEM swaybars they made a difference on my car, with Whiteline bars even better.

I also happen to do killer prices on these.:whistling:

Torques Mentor

Torques

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Hi there,

Hmmm .. that looks interesting, must be worlds apart from the standard linkage.

Geez it looks already like one of these small jobs you do on your car and

then your find yourself replacing 90% of the suspension while 'at it' ;)

Hi Terry, they are definitely a worthwhile upgrade,

You'd be going from this; post-61153-0-51063500-1326575041_thumb.jpg

To these; KLC108.jpgtn_KLC109.jpg

No rubbers to wear out and get squeaky, miles more responsive, it's win all round.:thumbsup: They're completely service free and quiet as a mouse. Even on OEM swaybars they made a difference on my car, with Whiteline bars even better.

I also happen to do killer prices on these.:whistling:

Daleo Grand Master

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Hi there,

Hmmm .. that looks interesting, must be worlds apart from the standard linkage.

Geez it looks already like one of these small jobs you do on your car and

then your find yourself replacing 90% of the suspension while 'at it' ;)

Lol, I see you've done this before...whistling.gif

Once you have the Whiteline bars, this is always something you can add at a later date.thumbsup.gif

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