T3/T04 Chinese Copy Garrett Trubos

[Cameron_Datto]

Hi just wondering if any one has use one of these turbos ..there has been a lot of these turbos for sale on ebay lately around $ 900 new .. they are a To4/t3 Hybrid turbo using a 57 e trim and .63 ex A/r stage 3 exhaust wheel .. the specs are like a Turbonectics t04/t3 turbo .. the best give away of the turbo is the I.D plate on the Compressor housing out let .. Any way what are you Thoughts and experience ?

[funkymonkey]

i can't see any quality issues since they're all made in china anyways

[West]

True!

[WHITE R32]

be carefull with these cam cause my turbo guy at the place u know of ( who i wont mention here ) has had a few turbos rom there come over for patrols and stuff like that... and they have had an overall failure rate of something like 85%... they even had one fail driving out the driveway after instalation..... i cant remember the exact place where they were made but id bet they are from the same place....

the main problem was bent shafts and excessive swarf left in the turbo upon assembly causing premature failure..... if u wanna know anything more about em go see who i told u to see cause they had one pulled upart on the work bench there and even i could see the problem.

[WHITE R32]

and my garrett turbo which i bought new was made in mexico not china..... but id say they have several assembly plants all over the world cause they are a multi national corporation...

[RNS11Z]

if these are the internal gated so called 700hp turbo, i know of a couple of cars using this turbo and there working fine

[funkymonkey]

as with most things when you read n use the item within the specifications of the manufacturer they work fine, but with turbo's when was the last time you heard of someone using a turbo in stock form, theyre always winding up the boost etc, putting extra pressure on it than reccomended. if you don't plan on doin it then it should be ok.

what about warranties and claims?

[WHITE R32]

yeah warranties would possibly be an issue id say... fair enough they may wannat it for you but how long would u be without a turbo if it has to be sent to china to be assessed and send another one .... im in no way rubbishing these turbos... just really saying there is usually a reason why things are cheaper than the rest... like my dad says... "you get what u pay for"

[funkymonkey]

if its sold by a local distributor n u can get the terms n conditions of waranty claims i'd be interested in seeing em.

[T0nyGTSt]

I posted this on Performance Forums so you guys may as well look at it.

I'm interested in the T34R.

http://www.nitroware.net/~tony/powerdigger.jpg

300k

Advise me oh wise ones!

T.

[funkymonkey]

i've been told by people who deal with Hybrid directly (for race purposes) that they're a good bunch n are always keen to help out. Dunno bout their commercial products though.

[MJ]

I think hybrid make value for money products as i have a hybrid fmic and quite like it, but a turbo on the other hand is not something you want to compromise on. Its not ball bearing from what i know?

Id be interested to hear any results from anyone thats tried one

[Cameron_Datto]

Found pics of the same turbo and specs in a USA turbo site ForSale ,, they Call it a

"Stone Mountain Racing Turbo " did a search and Found www.honda-tech.com

the guys where using them on there hondas .. most of them didnt get more than 600 miles before the seals let go.. Also they where saying they had "wet floating ball bearings " but they where just plain bush type ..and the exhaust Housing metal cracked very easily ... What you said "White R32" sounds correct ... Hmm wounder if they Class the machine swarf left in the turbo as " wet floating Ball bearings " :Bang:

[Steve]

sounds a bit like 'the fish john west reject', perhaps a way of them selling the seconds?

[funkymonkey]

hmmm if a honda can crack the turbo then it CAN'T possibly be any good lol.

FMIC is one thing, there's only so many ways you can design and fabricate an intercooler. Turbo's are another matter.

[Busky2k]

If these turbos are this bad then powerdigger would pull them off the shelf immediately...

[51jay]

Going by the experiences I've had with "made in China" router and drill bits I wouldn't use a turbo made there.....maybe in 10 or 15 years

[Guest INASNT]

You know you can always get a custom made garrett turbo made right here in Aus to whatever specs u want.

[T0nyGTSt]

Also from the looks of things, these are external wastegate units that do not fit the stock manifold.

Sounds like $$$ down the drain to support lame duck snails.

T.

[LaL]

i would rather get a garret from aussie land.