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Hey guys I'm building an ---------- for my partner and I am in the process of doing an RB25 swap.

Now the boys over on the commodore forums do know what there talking about but unwanted to talk to the experts!

Ok I want a BIG f**k off turbo now mainly the size of the compressor housing! It's for the look as its a show pony and don't want to build another 500rwkw car and let my darling die lol

My Senator made 487rwkw and she won't step foot in it! And on cruises I want her to drive the VL

BUT here's the catch

I want to run the thing on 10-15psi so it still is fun to drive! Now I like lag I find it fun and with my girlfriend an un accustomed to wheel spin I want it to be tame for the most but push it parts 4k and it just goes spastic

You understand what I'm getting at?

In the last 6 years I don't think she has ever gone over 3000rpm lol

Basically the motor will be stock as a rock with a custom made or ebay intake just for looks but width a descent exhaust and fmic

I don't need a lecture on how it should work I know I should run a gt3077 lol but its not what I want lol I was looking at the precision pt6766 and 6262 will this do what I want and what do they look like beside a 25 lol

Sorry about the gay question but had to ask

Regards

Simon

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Borg Warner S300SX 83-75 with .88a/r twin scroll hotside.

Not that expensive a turbo in the grand scheme, look enormous, sound huge (think T51R-whistle), but will be making boost and whistling about it in the 3000rpm range and if you have your hoof in it at 4000+rpm things will start getting silly. It is more comparable with a GT3582R in terms of power/spool so it won't be a dyno queen - but at the same time make enough power to get in a LOT of trouble.

Hope that helps! http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/borgwarner-airwerks/borgwarner-s300sx-83-75-turbo.html

Themasterbutcher Newbie

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Lithium mate you hit if on the head!

That's so big it's funny but seriously it didn't get anymore perfect for what I want!

That polished up and in a freshly painted bay will look a million bucks

Once it's all said n done ill post some pictures and credit the help

Regards

Simon

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Not getting old mate!

Missis wants a nice car with a big turbo why? Because they look cool! And I doubt turning tyres at speed is ever going to be a shared fetish between us! So until then she can have big turbos that do sweet f**k all because once she goes back to driving a Hyundai ill up the wick and have some fun!

GTScotT Grand Master

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I respect this, your not here saying i want the bestest bestest... Your just wanting something that will still drive reasonably well at a tame boost level but is mostly for looks.

Nothing wrong with that, we all build cars for different reasons and if its going to be mostly for looks surely it doesnt need to have a $30,000 engine in it.

Both options mentioned above are cost effective and have massive comp housings (T67 and BW). Good luck with it mate, I like the sensible honesty of it.

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Hey guys I'm building an ---------- for my partner and I am in the process of doing an RB25 swap.

Now the boys over on the commodore forums do know what there talking about but unwanted to talk to the experts!

Ok I want a BIG f**k off turbo now mainly the size of the compressor housing! It's for the look as its a show pony and don't want to build another 500rwkw car and let my darling die lol

My Senator made 487rwkw and she won't step foot in it! And on cruises I want her to drive the VL

BUT here's the catch

I want to run the thing on 10-15psi so it still is fun to drive! Now I like lag I find it fun and with my girlfriend an un accustomed to wheel spin I want it to be tame for the most but push it parts 4k and it just goes spastic

You understand what I'm getting at?

In the last 6 years I don't think she has ever gone over 3000rpm lol

Basically the motor will be stock as a rock with a custom made or ebay intake just for looks but width a descent exhaust and fmic

I don't need a lecture on how it should work I know I should run a gt3077 lol but its not what I want lol I was looking at the precision pt6766 and 6262 will this do what I want and what do they look like beside a 25 lol

Sorry about the gay question but had to ask

Regards

Simon

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Same, I don't get it but I like the honesty.

Consider it like buying a set of wheels.

You get people who want all out function, people who want function with good fitment (most of us), people who just want perfect fitment (teh looks), and morons that just want the biggest chrome wheels they can fit under the car.

OP essentially wants perfect fitment. Wants it to look awesome under the bonnet as the car is for looks, but wants it to be functional at a reasonable level. Like rims, perfect fitment looks awesome but probably wont have enough tyre to lap the tracks at ten tenths, they do a good job of being a road wheel/tyre and look awesome.

He wants the car to drive reasonably well, make a reasonable amount of power at low boost levels and have a massive compressor housing so that it looks awesome when the bonnet is popped.

I respect it because OP isnt the big chrome wheels guy of the turbo world. Isnt asking for 500rwkw turbo that spools at 3000rpm on his stock RB20. Its reasonable... A T67ish turbo will drive well and make say 220rwkw at 12psi? It will also look awesome under the bonnet, meeting all his targets. Le GF can take car to meets and look cool, while its still perfectly drivable/enjoyable on the road.

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I respect it because OP isnt the big chrome wheels guy of the turbo world. Isnt asking for 500rwkw turbo that spools at 3000rpm on his stock RB20. Its reasonable... A T67ish turbo will drive well and make say 220rwkw at 12psi? It will also look awesome under the bonnet, meeting all his targets. Le GF can take car to meets and look cool, while its still perfectly drivable/enjoyable on the road.

exactly why i suggest the KANDO T67. can beat it for value/power and its been proven time and time again

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exactly why i suggest the KANDO T67. cant beat it for value/power and its been proven time and time again

Perhaps ignoring my suggestion which is cheaper, will spool similar, make more power, looks bigger, sounds epic, and is from an OEM manufacturer whose proven performance and reliability history makes Kando by comparison look like a virtually unheard of knock off outfit. Oh hang on... ;)

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Lol wel there's no point flogging the goat

The main reason is its not my car!

I have a 2002 HSV Senator big cammed supercharged Ls1 that's my fast car it made 487rwkw and cost just over $35,000 to build but it cost more than just money! I'm still lucky (I think) to have my partner and the deal was if I could do what I wanted she could have a cool car as well!

She loves VL's so I bought a Calais rolling shell, smoothed the bay ANC painted it Lexus matador red over silver Calais trim!

The RB30 was flogged to the shithouse and ugly as f**k!

I brought a 25 without a turbo for a few hundred

And the gearbox was swapped for a fair amount of beer lol!

After putting the engine in the bay it looked boring! I looked through my mags to see why my bay looked shit compared and we came to the conclusion it was missing the oversized snail they all seemed to have!

So here I am!

If it was my car i would have tore down the 25 put the fancy shit in so I can run a GT35/40 on 30psi and do power skids for 500m down the strait of qld raceway BUT.......

It's not my car and I'm under strict instructions to make it look fast but the same no faster than her SS lol

I told her I'd set up something that she could grow with and fingers crossed 2 years time I hope she's up the road with 2 trails of smoke behinds her but I very much doubt that lol

Ill start it it slow and over a few years wind up the boost until it goes pop

Then back to the drawing board

Regards

Simon

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Lol nice work Simon, I like. Looking forward to success stories.

Lith I am not dismissing that the BW is a better turbo, or cheaper. Yet the cheaper variant has a twin scroll housing and marmon v-band clamp.. Limiting OP to certain manifold designs and harder to find clamps. T3 is $220 more, and 3" v-band $150.


The T67 is a run of the mill T3 which he can find a manifold for like a root in a brothel, and it comes with its v-band flange and clamp which is cheaply and readily replaced.

Be it myself I would do the BW... but then id be paying $1,200 for a manifold rather than the $400 for a cheap T3. I wouldn't go a china staino, even though most of those are T4 TS, just because I'd rather not be pulling it back off regularly due to cracks.

Just my 2c really. I like the BW idea just as much as the T67.... Am just thinking in simplistic terms as thats what the topic calls for.

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Perhaps ignoring my suggestion which is cheaper, will spool similar, make more power, looks bigger, sounds epic, and is from an OEM manufacturer whose proven performance and reliability history makes Kando by comparison look like a virtually unheard of knock off outfit. Oh hang on... ;)

great if you have a cummins tractor.........oh wait this is a commo! fair point :)

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