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> Then I upgraded to QFM A1RMs used them at my first ever outing at Wakefield Park, held up about 3/4 laps then after that the car needed pedal to floor to stop (mind you I'm not doing any amazing times either)
Were the pads gone or did you boil the fluid? I find using the cheapo 280 degree Nulon fluid goes before the A1RMs on my car. I have basic ducting to my front brakes tho.

Agreed, I never had an issue with the A1RM's in the 2T whale, if you are having issues in a car that's 500kg lighter... There is something else wrong.

My suggestion is to run road pads for the road, and swap to full race pads for track.

Yeah man yways to skin the cat when it comes to cooking brakes.

For me now I think fluid is the weak point, but that was a conscious decision to stop me cooking the tyres as they were going off before the brakes prior to this.

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> Then I upgraded to QFM A1RMs used them at my first ever outing at Wakefield Park, held up about 3/4 laps then after that the car needed pedal to floor to stop (mind you I'm not doing any amazing times either)

Were the pads gone or did you boil the fluid? I find using the cheapo 280 degree Nulon fluid goes before the A1RMs on my car. I have basic ducting to my front brakes tho.

I use PBR fluid which has a higher boiling point, thing is the only thing I did was change pads to Intima SR and I was able to go lap after lap after lap and only towards the end they started to show signs of fading unlike the QFMs

QFM are over rated, I have mates who have crumbled those pads - heck even Matty on this forum has issues with these pads.

They might have been really good back in the days because everything was so expensive however these days there are better for money.

I'm going to try the Intima's next (when the fronts are gone) and then depending on that may try the Lucas as well.

Intima first as a favour to the mate with the shop wanting reviews.

I'll probs also go back to slightly better fluid next time too (plus braided lines).

Because I just love giving myself more work :)

I I use PBR fluid which has a higher boiling point, thing is the only thing I did was change pads to Intima SR and I was able to go lap after lap after lap and only towards the end they started to show signs of fading unlike the QFMs

QFM are over rated, I have mates who have crumbled those pads - heck even Matty on this forum has issues with these pads.

They might have been really good back in the days because everything was so expensive however these days there are better for money.

:ph34r:

They were a good all rounder and served as an excellent street pad with plenty of bite! BUT for track they weren't up to the task!

I have nothing bad to say about them, they have been very good on my car. I'm only looking around because there are now some cheaper alternatives and I wanted to assess those.

I think pads get an unfair wrap sometimes.

Too many people put new pads in on stock brakes and complain that they are shit (I'm talking more about fade and power as opposed to directly pad related things like dust).

Often times using bog standard fluid or old fluid, which they boil at the track and blame pads for, or for using non slotted rotors, which many pads recommend using to get the best out of.

Not saying some comments aren't warranted, just that I find so many people pin all issues on the pads.

In my case it was simply the pads not up to the task, its a lot of weight and a lot of momentum... The dedicated track pads work perfectly in the standard size...

I have new braided lines, new fluid, new rotors etc etc... The pad was the weak point!

I am not saying they wont work as lighter cars probably dont have the same issues, but when you are trying to pull up 1575KG again and again of course they are going to suffer :)

I was just generalizing, not pointing the finger :)

Having owned an R33 GTST and an R33 GTR V-Spec, both modified, I can definitely say that S-Chassis make a lot more sense as a dedicated track car, where as the R-Chassis are a lot nicer on as a street car.

Not saying either can't do the other job, just saying that from personal experience, I think they are both slightly better suited to one than the other - you can of course spend money and it becomes a moot point :)

And the 2000kg Wagon doesn't count? :P Any pad will suffer under that stress.

I am running A1RM's again in the 8 piston Ksports now, unbelievable braking and they aren't even bed in yet. I can't wait to get them on a track. I agree, swapping to a race pad for the track is the better option, but not something most of us can do with our dailies.

But you're running bigger brakes, cheater lol

All I've done was upgrade pads and they did the trick, heck I'm only running OEM rotors!

No need to worry about cracking or fracturing - Nissan metal is good LOL

And the 2000kg Wagon doesn't count? :P Any pad will suffer under that stress.

I am running A1RM's again in the 8 piston Ksports now, unbelievable braking and they aren't even bed in yet. I can't wait to get them on a track. I agree, swapping to a race pad for the track is the better option, but not something most of us can do with our dailies.

Nice :yes:

Thats why i wrote it, id rather say the truth and let you know i am biased, i could have said nothing, but i know the product and how good it is and stand by it.

Tested and supplied many people racing various motor sports classes with them without issues, on the street they are fantastic, drifters, rally drivers, street track cars etc.

And as many people who use them tell me, the best bang for buck performance pad out there, people who have been racing for decades still demand them.

I am interested to try them if they have a pad to suit the KSport 8 piston callipers. I will contact you soon.

But you're running bigger brakes, cheater lol

All I've done was upgrade pads and they did the trick, heck I'm only running OEM rotors!

No need to worry about cracking or fracturing - Nissan metal is good LOL

I was running 32 GTR Sumitomos the first few track days, then the 34GTR Brembos for a few more. Neither impressed me much. :P

It's always rough when you can't just pick something from further up the line as an upgrade and have it be enough.

For me, some bigger rotors, a BM50 and some S15 calipers was a huge upgrade, all cheap and readily available.

For you guys, that's more or less what you start with =\

I have no idea what a half caged semi stripped S13 weighs but I'd hazard a guess and say it's a couple hundred kegs lighter than what you guys are wrestling.

It's always rough when you can't just pick something from further up the line as an upgrade and have it be enough.

For me, some bigger rotors, a BM50 and some S15 calipers was a huge upgrade, all cheap and readily available.

For you guys, that's more or less what you start with =\

I have no idea what a half caged semi stripped S13 weighs but I'd hazard a guess and say it's a couple hundred kegs lighter than what you guys are wrestling.

I think there is about a 300kg difference between my 34 and Alexs 180sx... So yeah weight is not a good thing lol

maybe half a ton less lol...

my car is full trim, nothing is missing + wads of sound deadening on the doors haha

Yeah my car is full trim PLUS a half cage lol..

I really should do something about that :P

because bad choice of pads :)

Perhaps, but that's what you get trying to use pads for road and track. For this purpose they are great, and 10 times better than the Bendix crap that was in the calliper when I bought it.

So yeah weight is not a good thing lol

^This. :/

The Evo should be more fun. ;)

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