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Recently we put together a 25/30 with a neo de head inc valve springs (bad idea) and wanted to see what the general limitations of standard turbo ones are. This engine was a budget build (though it was done pretty well) but im still a Uni student and on a budget with higher ambitions.

This is generally just me asking for experience with 25's not 30's. Trying to just use it as a rough outline from unopened DET neo's :)

EDIT: Here's a pic of where it starts valve floating. We backed off the boost and touched up the tune a little bit more and managed to make 280 and 550nm but this photo best represents where it dies off.

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Big thanks to Rob at Weltmeister Eastside for Dyno tuning (And can definitely recommend him!)

Thanks!

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Is there/was there definitely valve float? The reason I ask is that that graph show no signs of it directly. Just a sudden stop to proceedings. Granted the sudden stop does appear to be early, and at a lowish power level for a 30.

How much boost was that? What revs is the stop at?

Power expectation should probably be a bit lower given the smaller ports (they are smaller, aren't they?) and the valve springs are certainly going to flop about with some boost behind them.

If it is/was valve float, then you know what you have to do.

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There was another dyno sheet where it looped around with definitely valve float characteristics! Ill try find it.

Running 20psi on a DE head. It's been ported out to DET intake specs and exhaust has been ported out to take full advantage of the manifold.

The turbo still has a bit more boost left in it too!

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