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hey guys a couple of questions

1. Would i be correct in saying that the Apex'i Power FC D Jetro version uses a map sensor instead of AFMs?

2. Is anyone running one of these at the moment? pros/cons?

3. For the guys who have build big power RB26s what brand pistions and rods have you guys used? And what would you recommend for an RB26 running twin garrett 3040s.

thanks heaps guys

anf

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cant help ya wth your first 2 questions, but as far as piston and rod brands go, with pistons you cant go too wrong with any of the "known" brands; JE, Arias, CP, ACL (Ross, re-branded), etc, i've had experience with all these and all have proved good, personally i dont like wiseco, i think their design is not as good as the others, but thats my opinion. As far as rods go Argo are good, Crower do a really nice rod, and well priced, Carrillo also do awesome gear. Probabley comes dowm to how deep your pockest are. But all of these, i've had experience with, and should take good power

dont need to win the lotto ive been saving for 3 years and ive had heaps of help from my old man and my uncles.

ive also had alot of luck so far with once in a life time deals when buying things for the car. only thing holding me back atm is which parts to use, not money.

im building a show/drag car, so the budget is really the last thing on my mind.

ive sacrificed alot of things to raise the money for this car.

i cant believe things are actually starting to happen :)

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Hi anf

we have just done what u are starting, it was great, the pride and satisfaction of doing it yourself, in your own shed is worth all the pain. We are really pleased with how the car looks and runs. We used Aries pistons and had the skirts teflon coated and a cryogenic treatment done to all engine parts (to make stronger/last longer, mainly for drag). Rods? don't know/forget, and the engine builder is not here to ask. I can pm you a summary sheet of the things we have done to the car if you want?

Cheers, hope you accept advice/comments from a girl?

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It allows the removal of the Air Flow Meters which is particularly advantageous for large turbo applications such as the TRUST T88, HKS T517Z or twin GT3540's etc.... drag setups.

I've heard it also uses an ignition cut for the rev limiter instead of a fuel cut (which the STD Power FC uses) but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

If you want a Power FC for a road car I don't think it's overly necessary unless your idea of a road car to strap the biggest turbo on you can think of. For most people who don't upgrade the turbo or only upgrade slightly to keep good engine response and minimal lag, the STD Power FC will be sufficient.

apparently there arent that many people who can tune the d-jetro properly and it takes a shit load longer to tune.

im using arias pistons and REV billet rods with arp bolts.

also if your looking at getting an N1 oil pump you may want to just upgrade to a 33 gtr crank as the pump driver is smaller on the 32gtr crank

with those size turbo's you might be better looking at a stroker kit, HKS 2.8 - OS Giken 3.0l - Trust 2.7 litre kit, as a 2.6 with those size turbo's is going to have to be one hell of a revver to make use of the power band.

I also heard, yet again, that Apexi was no longer..... anyone else heard this???

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