XrSiSt Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 I'm looking at getting a HD clutch installed as mine is dead, anyone recommend sticking in a lighten flywheel? I know it doesn't do any kw increase but does do acceleration increase. Would the difference be seen between one with / one without the lightened flywheel. Or should it only be put in after a certain amount of hp? In other words, my question is really how does it compared for: $$$ vs Value??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PranK Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 if you have the $$$ spare then do it, but a lightened flywheel isn't on my 'to do' list. Just get the flywheel machined when the clutch goes in - thats what i did.. Christian. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Arrowz Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 I had a lightened flywheel in my WRX and yes acceleration does improve. But, it's a real pain to drive around the city. You lose out on bottom end torque. Very good if you get it out on the track cause you can keep the revs up easily. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krystian Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Yeah, Prank's right. You definately get a good response in the acceleration department. Light flywheels aren't that good for city driving, or driving in the wet for that matter. The accelerator becomes a lot more "touchy" and unless you have perfect control you can lose it easliy around a corner. In other words, if you drive it every day then it's not a good idea, if you just take it out to give it a little squirt now and then, then go for it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiMb0 Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Whats a flywheel ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XrSiSt Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 Thanks guys.. Just didn't know anyone who had one to tell me the differences. :lol: Jimbo.. I'm not 100% sure, but this is my uinderstanding. Your clutch is connected to your axles and diffs. The flywheels is a rotating part from your engine, which looks like a really big disc. By letting go the clutch, you make these two join together hence turning the axles to make the car move. I hope that explains it. More than happy if someone corrects me for any wrong info there. :oops: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiMb0 Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Sing with me now .... Youuuurr clutch is connected to your ax-el Yourrr axel is connected to your di-ff Yourrr diff is connected to your shin bone .... oh ... wait a second, that last bit only occurs after a crash at high speed, my mistake ... Carry on ... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Hands up who knew I'd post about this one. Light flywheel is a good thing for an engine like the skyline's. The revs build faster, boost comes on faster Hello! are we all not driving turbo cars here? Driving around the street, RB engines have plenty of spare torque unlike the 4 pot WRX, WRX's have rather short ratio rear ends to make matters worse. There is often no loss of torque with well made light flywheels, JUN/HKS and Ogura are all very good at keeping the torque. What you will notice is the excellent engine braking effect (revs drop quicker off throttle) and reduced strain on gear box. If you like 400m or track the light flywheel is great and WILL drop the times. Go lighter for 400m and super light for track work. I've been around quite a number of cars with light flywheels and they are a real "sleeper" mod. You won't be dissapointed. :mrgreen: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Stock or modified its a good idea, doesn't matter how much/little power you have. The $$$$ vs go go is very good indeed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Drift Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Got mine lightened a fair bit and it made a big difference When people talk about loosing torque this is true, but only when taking off and flat changing. Your flywheel is basically a large lump of metal that spins with the motor, like anything, if it's lighter it requires less energy to change it's rotation speed, both acceleration and decelaration. OK: That's all well and good but what's it mean? I found when taking off easy at lights the engine required slightly more throttle to prevent stalling. That is a minor, and in my opinion only, draw back. The upside is your motor will be MUCH more responsive and have much more sensitive throttle feel. It was a big help for drifting ;o) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Got mine lightened a fair bit and it made a big differenceWhen people talk about loosing torque this is true, but only when taking off and flat changing. Your flywheel is basically a large lump of metal that spins with the motor, like anything, if it's lighter it requires less energy to change it's rotation speed, both acceleration and decelaration. OK: That's all well and good but what's it mean? I found when taking off easy at lights the engine required slightly more throttle to prevent stalling. That is a minor, and in my opinion only, draw back. The upside is your motor will be MUCH more responsive and have much more sensitive throttle feel. It was a big help for drifting ;o)[/quote:038c9b3a6f] Dude I hope you didn't go and lighten the stock flywheel. The skyline RB ones are cast iron and like all cast iron the outer skin is the only part thats strong, not to mention the fact that you can't get the weight down very much vs a lighter steel alloy. I'd understand losing torque if you go down this road as the aftermarket units have less rotating mass on the outer edge to acheive the benifits as opposed to a lightened cast one that has an even facing. Maybe you meant an aftermarket flywheel though, cause otherwise you are driving a bit of a handgrenade is its a cast iron job. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XrSiSt Posted June 7, 2002 Author Share Posted June 7, 2002 ahh.. so many mods.. so little time... :twisted: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 ahh.. so many mods.. so little time... :twisted:[/quote:4583aaaad0]Unique auto sports has got a cheap light steel alloy flywheel $450 i think. 5.8kg as opposed to 9/10kg on the stock one. Or our favortite taki kaira web site flogs the ogura flywheel for about $650 inc freight it weighs only 4.8kgs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-13312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam 32 Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 im in the process of replacing my clutch, i personally am not going to replace with a lightened flywheel, just machine it mainly due to the money factor... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-16058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam 32 Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 just read your pose there rev im gettin my flywheel machined to smooth it out not to lighten it, when you say the cast iron outer is the only strong part, how thick is this outer layer ie how far can you machine it without taking away from its strength... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-16062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO880 Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 i was reading a post on some BMW forum and they apparently can't lighten both the Under drive pulley and the flywheel, something about a harmonic balancer.... (what a bunch of whingers ) is this okay for our engines? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-16866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 Originally posted by adam 32 just read your pose there rev im gettin my flywheel machined to smooth it out not to lighten it, when you say the cast iron outer is the only strong part, how thick is this outer layer ie how far can you machine it without taking away from its strength... They will just 'face' your flywheel, normally they don't take much off. Let them you know you don't wan't it lightened (as in take off kilo's). Don't worry this is not the same as lightening it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-18045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam 32 Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 yeh i told em that and they said they were just taking a very thin layer off and wont affect strength at all so its all good! thanks rev Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/545-lightened-flywheels/#findComment-18058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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