Question about Nissan and the naming of their Cars

[Guilty]

Im having this huge argument with my mate about the new skylines, and i even got my skyline on the line as a bet if im wrong. But i no im right...

anyways he keeps saying there is something called a R35, and when i tell him about the R32,33,34 being named after the RB engines...and the S13,S14,S15 named after the SR engines...and well he is saying, why were the R30, R31 named that way when they aint using an RB engine or are they?

which i am curious about....? so why were the R30 and R31's named the way they were....?

And i also explained how they new skyline with the VQ35DE engine and because of this its called the V35. But then he is like why isnt the 350z start with a V as well, which is my second question?

basically what im trying to ask, does nissan have a pattern in how they name their cars? apart from the silvia's and the skyline's....which were named aftert he engine types, im quite unsure about other nissans. But like the GtiR which has the SR20det in it...why was that named the way it was?

SO if you guys can help me thanks! and ohhh please dont start giving me crap about "the search engine is your friend" coz i honestly cant find shyt from it!

thanks for the help people

Cheers

GuiLty

[Rezz]

Ok here goes... and I hope you don't lose your car!

Who ever said that Nissan designates the 1st letter of the chassis code after the engine?

The Z33 Failady Z/350Z wasn't called a "V"33 because it's not a Skyline... the first letters of the chassis code are different for different models even though they carry the same engine. What you said about the S13/14/15 Silvias and 180SXs isn't correct either, because the S13 Silvia (turbo) was first released with the infamous CA18DET, not the SR20DET. Final point: the engine code may have some bearing on the chassis code designation, but you answered your own question regarding this because if Nissan did indeed use the 1st letter of the engine code as the 1st letter of the chassis code, then we'd have a "V"33 350Z wouldn't we?!

To answer your mate, NO... there is no R35!!! If he has access to some secret Nissan insider info that I don't know about this, please get him to PM me!

[Rezz]

Btw, R31 Skylines ran the RB20 series engines in Japan (a diesel engine too).

[Evo_Lee]

Your whole perception of Nissan naming the model following the engine is all wrong...where did you get that idea from?

As Rezz point out...there were also CAs in S13s!

And yes I hope you don't lose your car over this.

[funkymonkey]

although, there is an element of truth to it... an HR32 is a 2.0L R32, an ER33 is a 2.5L R33, and a ER34 is a 2.5L R34.

So an R32 isn't named after the engine it carries, but an HR32, HCR32, BNR32, HNR32 etc all are named after the engines they carry

also a PS13 is a 2.0L silvia and an S13 is a 1.8L silvia. An RPS13 is a 2.0L 180sx, and an RS13 is a 1.8L 180sx

[Evo_Lee]

So funky what is a KPS13?

[Rezz]

although, there is an element of truth to it... an HR32 is a 2.0L R32, an ER33 is a 2.5L R33, and a ER34 is a 2.5L R34.

So an R32 isn't named after the engine it carries, but an HR32, HCR32, BNR32, HNR32 etc all are named after the engines they carry

Alright, but our man Guilty was saying that the V in "V"35 meant it had a VQ35DE...

So to make it easy for Guilty, the "E" in ECR33/34 means 2.5L RB25? And the "H" in H*R32 means 2.0L RB20? I dare say the RB20E R33 Skyline was dubbed HR33?

*checks Car Sensor* yep... HR33 = RB20E.

[funkymonkey]

that's the model that came out iafter 1990 with the HICAS II More commonly known as the diamond selection

[homer2288]

Just like the S15 - I've seen on Nissan Japan and Carview's websites, it's got the type as GF-S15. Both S13 and S14 appear as E-S13 & E-S14 on Carview's website.

http://history.nissan.co.jp/SILVIA/S15/020...SPEC/index.html

http://www.carview.co.jp/vip/specification...SILVIA/1999.asp

The following is the meaning behind the name to some of nissan's cars - for those who is interested. You'll need babelfish for translation if u cant read japanese like me.

http://www.nissan.co.jp/MUSEUM/CARNAME/index.html

[funkymonkey]

i know the cefiro is named after zeferus, some roman god... it says so on its sales brochure...

[SKY031]

Btw, R31 Skylines ran the RB20 series engines in Japan (a diesel engine too).

The diesel engine was the RD28

[edit]

And the Aus R31's have the RB30 in them

please dont start giving me crap about "the search engine is your friend" coz i honestly cant find shyt from it!

The search engine is your friend....

http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/supe...per_matrix.html

[Rezz]

The diesel engine was the RD28

Very, very cheap call there... (considering I didn't say the RD28 was an RB)

[Guilty]

Heyy guys

thanks for the replies, dw i won't lose my car on this...I told himthat if he could find an official nissan site containing information on an R35, than he can have my keys, but until then i doubt he will find it.!

Rezz, this question is specifically for you!

What is the difference between the G35 and the V35.....

What i gather is the the V35, is the new skyline officially released in japan, while the G35 is simply a name given to the american version of the V35, which was officially released in america. Sorta like the japanese silvia and 200sx thingy....so is that correct?

oh thankss for the info guys!!

[Guilty]

ohh one more thing

if the R33 is ECR33, and 2.0L is the HR33...etc.

then what is the specific chasis model for the V35?

One thing that im kinda confused about is that, if nissan didnt really base the "r"32,33,34 on the RB engine or the "s"13,14,15 on the SR engine...

then why would the new skyline be called a V35, if its not named afta the VQ engine or?

The thing i dun really get is, is there any particular type of pattern which nissan uses to name there cars?

From all the information that you guys have posted, what i am assuming is that the model no. or Chassis family of the car is named/based on the Specific Chassis code for the car. Am i correct when i say this?

[Rezz]

Rezz, this question is specifically for you!

What is the difference between the G35 and the V35.....

What i gather is the the V35, is the new skyline officially released in japan, while the G35 is simply a name given to the american version of the V35, which was officially released in america. Sorta like the japanese silvia and 200sx thingy....so is that correct?

Yes, thats essentially it. The US Infiniti "G35" (coupe) is a model name, so shouldn't be confused with the chassis code "[uA-CP]V35" (coupe).

You could actually say "V35 Infinti G35"... but there would just be too much confusion and/or explaining for US peeps to handle I think. So G35 for the US delivered version.

Other than that, I think there are slight trim differences (ie: shape of the seats/headrests, fabrics, soundsystem specs, colours etc) and of course the badging. Everything else is practically the same.

[Rezz]

then what is the specific chasis model for the V35?

One thing that im kinda confused about is that, if nissan didnt really base the "r"32,33,34 on the RB engine or the "s"13,14,15 on the SR engine...

then why would the new skyline be called a V35, if its not named afta the VQ engine or?

GH-V35 = 2.5L sedan

GH-HV35 = 3.0L sedan

UA-PV35 = 3.5L sedan

UA-CPV35 = 3.5L coupe (only 1 engine avail.)

So going by that, a "V35" Skyline means it's a 2.5L V6! An "HV35" Skyline is a 3.0L V6 and so on...

As for your 2nd question, you have to remember that the "***V35" Skyline is a completely new generation of Skyline, so it doesn't carry the "R" designation anymore. As it has been said in many a Japanese BBS forum, Skyline enthusiasts shouldn't make a connection with the "R" series Skylines anymore, because even as good as they were, they are in actual fact obsolete technology and hence cannot be updated (or continuation of the family line can't happen). A similar thing happened when the C210 Skyline changed to the R30 series...

[paulr33]

and the silvia had Q K J and club spec didn't it?

K for ca18det or sr20det

Q for ca18de or sr20de

J for ca18de or sr20de (unsure why its a j spec?) - anyone?

King queen jack?

[Rezz]

and the silvia had Q K J and club spec didn't it?

K for ca18det or sr20det

Q for ca18de or sr20de

J for ca18de or sr20de (unsure why its a j spec?) - anyone?

King queen jack?

Yep, more or less... but Silvia K's, Q's and J's are model names, as you say Q's and J's both came with SR20DEs so the model name is more of and "overall vehicle spec for the layman" type definition rather than the chassis code/VIN which goes into MUCH more detail.

[paulr33]

the silva convertible was a cool model they did also, not sure what it was but i think they all came out auto sr20de only. ps love the japan section

[Guilty]

i seee

umm wat about GTR?

is the R in the GTR actually related to the RB series?

or totally different?

will the "new" gtr be called a gtr? or?