35 series Skyline

[lwells]

Because Renault are f#ckwits & they can suck on my nuts...

Yeh, they get the benefit of a larger target audience with a family car which means they get more money & we get less performance cars.  Its all about family cars these days, & all that means is that its all about making the most profit for some prick owner & shareholders.

Mate, I think you need to settle down and learn a thing or two about the car business.

For starters, the regulatory environment has significantly changed in the last few years. Emission legislation (both in terms of noise and pollution) is becoming an increasingly important factor, particularly since markets such as California (the biggest market of them all; one no car maker can ignore) is leading the charge. The fact that the 350Z is fitted with four cats tells you something.

Secondly, you can bitch and moan about Nissan selling out, but their options were either to stop producing the low volume, low profit cars and which were contributing to loosing vast sums of money, or to stop making cars full stop. Would you prefer no Nissans at all?

Personally I think Renaults' takeover was inspired.

I don't know why people are so critical. Nissan is selling a boatload of cars, and is finally making some serious money. The Micra has been a large success, the 350Z has gotten fantastic reviews, the Maxima finally doesn't look like a fridge, the X-trail leads its class. In the JDM the Cube has been a runaway success. Few companies are enjoying the level of success Nissan is at the moment.

Most of the complaints seem to surround the V35 Skyline. You can argue all you like about polluting the breed, but Nissan needed a medium-large coupe/sedan to sit above the 350Z, and to do it on a budget and the cheapest way to do that is component sharing, hence the similarities between the V35 and 350Z: Nissan already had a proven platform, an emissions compliant engine (unlike the RBs), and an emerging styling trend.

Now that they have the resources -- read: the money they are making that you so bemoan -- they can finally address the low volume, high cost, low profit sector. Without Renault's involvement, no such car would be forthcoming IMHO.

LW.

[darrinspencer]

I think they look good

Everyone complains they dropped the turbo

Most 32,33, & 34 turbo skylines get modified anyway

Bigger turbo's, intercoolers, computers exhaust etc

What does that cost?

So why not twin turbo the v35

cost 10-15 grand

There is a few kits avail now.

I have spent over 10 grand on my 33gtst tring to get more power.

There is also a turbo v25 engine avaliable in other Nissan makes

Would not be too hard to put one in the V35 or 350z.

[KILL HSV]

I don't know why people are so critical.  Nissan is selling a boatload of cars, and is finally making some serious money.  The Micra has been a large success, the 350Z has gotten fantastic reviews, the Maxima finally doesn't look like a fridge, the X-trail leads its class.  In the JDM the Cube has been a runaway success.  Few companies are enjoying the level of success Nissan is at the moment.

Most of the complaints seem to surround the V35 Skyline.  You can argue all you like about polluting the breed, but Nissan needed a medium-large coupe/sedan to sit above the 350Z, and to do it on a budget and the cheapest way to do that is component sharing, hence the similarities between the V35 and 350Z: Nissan already had a proven platform, an emissions compliant engine (unlike the RBs), and an emerging styling trend.

i agree, its good that nissan is doing well, but they're just not what they used to be

but most of the people on this site aren't looking for family econo-boxes

[Rezz]

Fellas.... Nissan got into the sh*t because of bad business practices during the 'Bubble Economy' years!

What did they do during the 'Bubble' era??? They made fookin expensively designed turbo sports cars that led their respective classes and sold them for cheap!!! They designed about 28 variations of every model!!! They plugged HUGE amounts of capital into 'insta-reputation' racing teams!!! (read: they thought that no one in Europe took them seriously until they won Le Mans, WRC, Group A etc)...

I could go on...

What we see now is Nissan trying to make amends for the excesses of the '80s and early '90s. Think of the 'good times' Australian government under Bob Hawke... then a recession under Keating... get it?

I think for all they've gone through, Nissan are doing as good as can be humanly expected right now. God I can't stand Carlos Ghosn, but I admit he's pretty good at beancounting.

[funkymonkey]

i agree, its good that nissan is doing well, but they're just not what they used to be

but most of the people on this site aren't looking for family econo-boxes

that's because we're all driving second hand sports sedans and coupes.... do you wanna have a guess what the base model of your car is used as in japan... that's right, a family econo-box. Or try and explain why an R34 was available with an RB20E single cam N/A engine from the factory?

As for Nissans losing the turbo, the turbo was an option, the Skyline has ALWAYS had an N/A variant of all its cars.

[KILL HSV]

that's because we're all driving second hand sports sedans and coupes.... do you wanna have a guess what the base model of your car is used as in japan... that's right, a family econo-box. Or try and explain why an R34 was available with an RB20E single cam N/A engine from the factory?

As for Nissans losing the turbo, the turbo was an option, the Skyline has ALWAYS had an N/A variant of all its cars.

but thats what i'm saying, its like nissan has lost its spirited performance car line-up or 'soul' as someone else said

for the fast car driver, there's nothing in the nissan range anymore

its true the base of my car is an econobox, but then there used to always be a sports model, for people that wanted it, now what do we have? the 350z and non turbo skylines :uhh:

[lwells]

That's because they had to consolidate their range to survive. Why don't we all just wait and see what happens with the new GT-R before we write Nissan off?

LW.

[funkymonkey]

the 350z IS the coupe of the nissan range. As for non turbo skylines, I think people just have to come to grips with the fact that the Skyline has reverted to what it was originally concepted to be, a slightly better than average family sedan (not exactly econobox with a V6 engine). The current JGTC car from Nissan is the 350z, so any race homologation models will be made in the 350z range, not the skyline range.

As Rezz said, instead of having the homologation model and then the regular family econobox models, Nissan splashed out and made many many variants inbetween for the R31 thru to R34. Current economy and business models don't support that sorta extravagance.

[Rezz]

I think too many Nissan 'newbies' are confusing 'Nissans Sports Heritage' with 'Turbo'...

Of curse the turbo has played a big part in Nissans previous 20 years, but if you look at the whole picture, turbos are just a *part* of it... alot of you guys are writing off Nissan altogether just because there aren't any turbos in their current line-up.

The Fairlady Z is a good car without a turbo! Ok, the V35 Coupe doesn't get the stamp of approval styling wise, but 280ps N/A V6? Sounds good to me...

[Guerilla]

Fairlady Z is a good car without a turbo! Ok, the V35 Coupe doesn't get the stamp of approval styling wise, but 280ps N/A V6? Sounds good to me...

Sound's good to me to Rezz. Unless i was hearing things, on a BMI DVD there was a 450ps N/A 350z. So i find the VQ a every intersting engine.

[KILL HSV]

ok but the reason why i got into nissans was because of, their performance range from mid 80's to late 90's, (300zx, silvia, skyline, cefiro, gtir, and more) and i realise they couldn't keep going that way,

but i don't about their new cars, they just don't seem very impressive

[lwells]

*Sigh*.

Look, they have gone through a period of necessary consolidation. Now they are making money again and can afford to start exploring niche markets again.

Wait and see what the next few product revisions bring.

BTW, its interesting to note that Renault has a number of oddball products, so I don't think they will be the brake everyone accusses them of being.

LW.

[zymotic]

Change is inevitable.

I for one would love a 350z or V35.

grr ... shan

[funkymonkey]

from now on I will use this every time I see that happen...

[geno8r]

sorry, what was that funky i cant read your post, its too small, can you make it larger or sumthin?

[Guest]

Does anyone know if the G35 Infinity/Skyline Coupes can be imported here.

Any RAWS importers available?

Cheers

Chris

They are here in AUS and I have seen them 2 Door and 4 Door, evidence is the hold up at the moment nothing else except price on the 2 doors.

They are about 800,000 to 1,000,000 for a good base sedan for 1,500,000 you can pick the 350 GT-8 (204 kw motor) and the Coupe is 2,500,000 plus, once the coupe hits 2,000,000 you will see more.

A lot of American companys and HKS have built some nice Super Charger kits which seems to be the way to go.

They will become popular with a retail price starting at $28,000 for the 250 on more of a mini Maxima base.

And they do need a body kit I will say that, the US based G35 Infinity have a lot of nice bits.

[SHUTO-BOY]

u old schoolers out there might curse me lol

saw a 35 sedan today,and i kinda like it..,yet to see the coupe tho,it kinda grows on you.

looks very classy,but needs more horsepower.greddy turbo kit?

[OKBANANA]

V35 Coupe is a lovely car, it does need a bodykit though, and some nice mags. But more importantly it could to with abit more grunt to it.

[Guerilla]

The Greddy VQ aint nothing special. Im just waiting to see what Top Secret comes out with.

[R34]

They are here I walk pass one once a week, evidence is the hold up at the moment nothing else except price on the 2 doors.

Driftt...Where in Perth??? I'm interested in having a look as all reports say the coupe is better looking in the metal than photos. That's alright by me as I think they look pretty hot with the right bodykit and the grille painted black.

Thanks for the thumbnails "darrinspencer"

For me all Skylines are great cars but one must move on with technology.