Speed Fines in NSW lowered

[NXTIME]

lol.. you're as bad as me duncan..  

one day I would like to cause an accident braking ridiculously for a speed camera.. this is my goal. if more people did that they'd be banned. Either that and "braking too excessively for speed camera" would be made an offence.

Actually it can tend to happen anyhow.. a whole line of traffic drives ridiculously slow because of a camera everybody can see - what is that doing for the "flow of traffic"

It's an invisible speed hump.

I would rather pay the $130 fine and keep the extra point.

This is the govt we are talking about, they give with one hand and take with the other.

[blacky]

I think this is a positive move. sure it sucks that your demerit points will be in alot more danger, but form the responses in this thread i thinkits safe to say that most of us would think twice about speeding especially in school zones., with such large punishments in place.

i know i'd rather lose dollars than points.

and just quickly:

The State Government makes more than $1 million a week in revenue from fixed speed cameras and Treasury is yet to determine how it will accommodate the revenue loss.

how disgraceful, the first thing they think of is how theyre going to make up the loss. what about the peoples lives that will potentially be saved by the changes? Why not comment more on that?

my god.

[Beer Baron]

I too would rather loose a few more bucks than points.

the crazy thing is say some poor young P plater goes through a speed camera at 66 in a 60 zone. which is on a nice straight divided road on a clear day with no traffic - hardly dangerous behaviour. that poor bugger will have his licence suspended for 3 months. I hardly think he'll give two f**ks that the fine was ony $70 odd instead of $130...

I reckon they are lowering the fines to soften us up for a VIC like zero tolerance. They'll say since we've lowered fines we'll now be booking people that exceed the speed limit by more that 1km/h.

[siksII]

I too would rather loose a few more bucks than points.

the crazy thing is say some poor young P plater goes through a speed camera at 66 in a 60 zone. which is on a nice straight divided road on a clear day with no traffic - hardly dangerous behaviour. that poor bugger will have his licence suspended for 3 months. I hardly think he'll give two f**ks that the fine was ony $70 odd instead of $130...

I reckon they are lowering the fines to soften us up for a VIC like zero tolerance. They'll say since we've lowered fines we'll now be booking people that exceed the speed limit by more that 1km/h.

its crazy for p platers... especially red p platers, who cannot exceed 3 demerit points, so if they have one of these low level speeding offences and a p plate falls off one day and they get caught for it, thats it, 3 months without a licence.

[Shell]

Speed cameras would be looked at to make sure they were in the right location for safety improvement rather than revenue raising.

oh, well they won't have to move any... haven't they always told us the current locations were for safety, not revenue raising???

[Brackez]

What a cynical bunch you are! At least these are steps in the right direction rather than the usual tax-payer funded ad campaigns plastered in papers, tv etc to justify their revenue raising.

If they are going to persist with the principle of no tolerance, speeding by 5km/h increases braking distances heaps etc, then they must attempt to show that the focus is on improving safety rather than treasury balances. Increasing points and dropping fines seems a fair way to do it.

I'll agree that the point penalties for you guys in NSW were too high to begin with though, no points in WA for up to 9km/h over.

[igor]

I think the most encouraging aspect of the story is that Costa is stepping forward and asking for motorists opinion. The idea to make penalties harsher for right lane hoggers is commendable.

I also think they should do the same for tailgaters. The way i see it at the moment tailgating is very hard to police. If there are easily quantifiable rules as to when one is tailgating then both the driver and the cop will have an idea. For example: "You have been driving less than 2 cars lengths behind that car for more than 3 seconds. Have this fine and have a nice day."

[Brackez]

Igor :werd:

[Kristov]

I know this is off the topic but

If they are going to persist with the principle of no tolerance, speeding by 5km/h increases braking distances heaps etc, then they must attempt to show that the focus is on improving safety rather than treasury balances.

They say that exceeding the speed limit by 5kmh is going to double your chance of crashing and another 5kmh will triple your chance of crashing etc. What are the chances. I mean as percentage. Im thinking if you take the number of crashes in Australia everyday divided by the number of people who drive a car in Australia everyday that number would be pretty small right? So does anyone know the actual numbers?

[predator]

If they are going to persist with the principle of no tolerance, speeding by 5km/h increases braking distances heaps etc, then they must attempt to show that the focus is on improving safety rather than treasury balances. Increasing points and dropping fines seems a fair way to do it.

I think they should do nothing.. why are they always changing the system every 5 minutes in every state?

Keep the same rules in place for 10 years.. saves a lot of ****ing around.

They can only save so many lives, it's at the minimum - government needs to get over it on focus on other things.

[The_Paladin]

i think it's a good change.................if the government was using speed camera's soley to earn money like a lot of people are saying then this current move flies in the face of logic, it wouldnt make any sense................

speeding fines are less discrimintory towards performance car enthuasts too............this isnt a move to harm that group of enthusiasts.

they need to be cracking down on bad driving practice more......................that's going unnoticed.

[Brackez]

'Keep the same rules in place for 10 years.. saves a lot of ****ing around.'

True, but that only works if the rules make sense and actually work. Otherwise they'll be either reviled or ignored, in which case you might as well not have them at all.

Standardisation of speed limits/penalties between states wouldn't hurt either.