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Andrew you biatch, you never told me you played CS... let alone had a clan LOL

Sheesh who would have thought there'd be so many CS geeks here :rofl:

I haven't played for almost a year, but i gotta join you some time... see what yer skillz are like ;)

Why bother "borrowing" a copy; just buy it online for like USD$49. It isn't that much for a game that delivers so many hours of entertainment :)

Count me in on a LAN anytime :cheers:

yeah I used to play in Darwin for "[TOB]" The Old Bastards, then gave it a rest when I moved back to Adelaide, but started up again when Source came out and I got 1.5Mb ADSL :cheers:

Our clan is [nAp] Not a Problem :rofl: .... we are all hacks and just plain suck, but have fun nonetheless.

Haven't bought GT4 yet - just haven't had the time to go out and buy it (nor the time to play it at the moment work is so busy). I'm sure I'll get more fired up to buy it after the 500 this weekend!

the thing is though they are twoo completely different genre's. One involves skill/teamwork/tactics - cs. While the other involves moving left and right - gt4. btw qualifying for licenses doesnt involve alot of skill instead alot of time.

Alrighty, I'll start the ball rolling :)

Mode: Arcade

Track: Nurburgring

Car: Nissan R32 GTR

Rules:

- no power or weight adjustments

- driving aids at drivers preference

Happy with that?

Noway. GT4 requires skill. Its not like CS is exactly that much of a skillful game. Play VC and you'll see that even that aging game requires more skill than CS.

I dont see where the skill is in racing platform games especially when it is on a console and its gt4, gt3 or whatever it may be. Sure skill is an acquired technique but I dont believe it exist in these games.

Alrighty, I'll start the ball rolling :)

 

Mode: Arcade

Track: Nurburgring

Car: Nissan R32 GTR

 

Rules:

- no power or weight adjustments

- driving aids at drivers preference

 

Happy with that?

Anyone who can complete 2 laps of this track and keeping up with the AI using a JGTC car of any sort involves quite a bit of skill in itself IMO.

The AI in GT4 is hopeless, in CS you play against real ppl with teamwork who play with experience that want you dead.

Exactly :( which cs is so popular and played all over the world because it involves skill. We aint talking about playing against bots here although the bots in cs may be in fact smarter than the ai in gt4 since the bots are at least always updated to be smarter unlike those in gt4.

I dont see where the skill is in racing platform games especially when it is on a console and its gt4, gt3 or whatever it may be. Sure skill is an acquired technique but I dont believe it exist in these games.

Hmm, firsly saying that there is no skill involved in racing games is just weird. Does that mean there is no skill in racing real cars as opposed to shooting real guns? There is skill involved in whatever game you play, whether it be FPS, RPG or racing. And why should it be any different whether its on a console?

Also trying to compare completely different genres of games like CS and GT4 doesn't really make sense.

But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinions :(

Secondly,

which cs is so popular and played all over the world because it involves skill.

I'll just throw some number in here that I found.

GT series, units sold ~ 38million

Halflife/CS, units sold ~ 8million

:D

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