Autosalon S.C.O.T.Y.

[Roy]

Bash all he wants, it seems they were the quickest at the circuit, drags and someone touched on the engineering thing where they faired pretty well, so...

[someonestolecc]

Anyone would fair well if you kept changing it for each test.

[Dahtone Racing]

Anyone would fair well if you kept changing it for each test.

thats right

[SRP]

for te record....GTR was on pump fuel......i saw him fill up at the first servo in Liverpool with over 30 litres then when we did the fuel economy test he put 17 litres in.....thats three quarters of a tank

i also know the car was retuned for pump fuel in between autosalon and SCOTY comp . It was done at Croydon. if it was on C16 it would ahve made a lot more than 540kW @ wheels on the dyno!

Cars running race brakes were _ Supra, GTR, R34 GTR, Jerrys S15

all other cars had semi slicks too so all disadvantaged by not warming up

only Osmans and Blue S14 had street tyres combned with street spec brakes

Angus showed me the braking distance when we all left and mine was written down as the shortest......judged will be checking video footage of every car to see whn they topped

and by the way not having ABS you generally lock up under very hard brakes over the last coule of metres

and using the handbrake cos i had semi slick on the back obviously worked....wasnt so stupid afterall

so theres no need for bashing anyones car in the event anymore

article is out next month so we can see the points and the winner

we cn see how my car with standard turbo and $14,000 worth of mods goes against cars with $100,000 plus spent on them!

[SRP]

also the GTR didnt change anything

where the scremer pipe from the external wastegate comes down it has a movable flange that can either make the screamer pipe plumb back into the exhaust or vent to atmosphere....this is the reason it was so loud at the track and on the dyno but quiet on the street....also exhaust dB isnt done under load, its done in neautral with the car stationary so the wastegate doesnt open ....the GTR didnt get 88db it got 91 dB

onpy one car passed the exhaust dB with 88 an that was the BLue S14.....it has a screamer pipe too that is stupidly loud but under no loead it doesnt open so car is very quiet

no can we stop the bashing....im friends with all the competitiors there and it was heas of fun so lets keep posts as compliments now shall we

[Dahtone Racing]

yellow GTR had R33 brembos not race brakes

the only people who complained about it were domenic and the blad dude from autostyle

the GTR was quiet because it had one of those silencer flaps that can be opened and closed from inside the car

i couldnt give a *** who your friends with i found everyone on the day to be great guys except the autostyle clowns

and ive been told it was much the same at last years event

anyway yes it was a fun day

and next year ill be entering my car

[Roy]

...and next year ill be entering my car

LOL. then is it wise to be slinging mud:)

This is about the only thing the Auto Salon gyts have got right...the car shows and Drag Combat is not my cup of tea, but could see this turning into a good competition, only they need to do rounds in states then finals etc...time will tell:)

[SRP]

ike that idea

at this stage entry is by invitation from the hundreds of entry forms

[Roy]

Invitation only...

If you go to the tracks around the country you see plenty of well modified street cars that have the performanc side of things sorted. They arent show cars, but then again show cars arent street cars either.

[wrxkilla]

i think you should back off a bit on the autostyle bashing also.

plenty of tuff cars have come out of autostlye that rip. i know of a couple of gtrs that have done 11's and 10s at wsid and have been to wakefield lapping in 1:10s with Street rubber.

as you say by invitation only. so only there huge hp cars got the invite.

it wouldnt take much of a brain to realise a 600kw gtr is not going to be too quick round wakefield...

i do agree with a load of the show ponies things, when do these cars hit the tracks etc etc. blah blah. but whatever. who cares.

good on all for having tuff cars and competing...

mick

[Dahtone Racing]

dont worry from now on ill just say it to their faces its much more satisfying watching the tears well up in doms eyes LMAO

any top car from MC Racing will always get accepted he didnt even enter MR WRX he just wanted to go for a bit of fun and they asked if he wanted to enter

[Roy]

dont worry from now on ill just say it to their faces its much more satisfying watching the tears well up in doms eyes LMAO

any top car from MC Racing will always get accepted he didnt even enter MR WRX he just wanted to go for a bit of fun and they asked if he wanted to enter

I take it your a MC Racing fan....was it the black WRX he was racing...did it even have an interios/door trims etc. Id say good thinking if it didnt as its all kgs you dont have to carry around...but an interior would be nice on a street car:)

Anyway roll on next years comp, where hopefully the comp gets bigger and better but without too much d1ck swinging:)

[Dahtone Racing]

im good mates with brian and he did the paint work on my car.

yea it was the Black MY03 he was racing

the rules were that u have to have interior system etc etc etc.

he had the full interior including the full boot install for the system

[Roy]

So i see the GTr won, is the mag worth buying/ a read ?

[Dahtone Racing]

yea i think ASM is always worth buying

[Gonad Man]

If anyone doesn't understand the law of diminishing returns they need to read this thread. Very educational.

A GTP car can manage a 1:04 while the best these beasts can manage is a 1:08, right? Not bagging these great cars (1:08 is a fantastic time on street tyres in my opinion) it just shows the difference between power and handling. As I mentioned, no matter what the power, tyres make a huge difference and any car that can come up with a 1:08 on street tyres is doing bloody well. I'm impressed not just with the cars but especially the drivers. I'm guessing these big-HP monsters must really need to be driven with your tippy-toes, if you get my meaning.

If Brian manages a 1:04 with street tyres I'll be super impressed. Are R-Spec tyres (like D01J, Kumho V700 etc) considered street tyres?

I just read that most cars are running R-spec rubber. If that's the case then a 1:10 is pretty ordinary. Geez, even a Muppet like me can manage a 1:11.7 on real street tyres (not R-spec) in a lowly near-stock STi (around 170 kW ATW).

I shouldn't really comment-the sight of these show pieces shaking the ground at a proper race track with turns etc would be worth the price of admission alone.

I think it's great to see these cars in motion rather than on display.

...Ben

[Beer Baron]

So i see the GTr won, is the mag worth buying/ a read ?

i have found ASM quite good in recent times, but i have to say appart form the SCOTY articles this issue was nothing special.

[Roy]

A GTP car can manage a 1:04 while the best these beasts can manage is a 1:08, right? Not bagging these great cars (1:08 is a fantastic time on street tyres in my opinion) it just shows the difference between power and handling. As I mentioned, no matter what the power, tyres make a huge difference and any car that can come up with a 1:08 on street tyres is doing bloody well. I'm impressed not just with the cars but especially the drivers. I'm guessing these big-HP monsters must really need to be driven with your tippy-toes, if you get my meaning.

If Brian manages a 1:04 with street tyres I'll be super impressed. Are R-Spec tyres (like D01J, Kumho V700 etc) considered street tyres?

Street legal R sepc rubber is considered street rubber:(

Im happy to be proven wrong but the WRX guy is dreaming if he think he can do a 1:04:) Its not just a single mod, but the synergy of all the mods. A friend didnt believe me when i said even with the biggest brakes in the world he wasnt going to stop that much quicker unless he did something about his suspension. I think he laughed at me, but last i heard now he has the brake upgrade he is off shopping for new susp.

I have followed King in his EVO around Wakefield, and down the straights and to a certain extent under brakes my car is about even. But as soon as he hits turn 3, well by the time we get back to the front straight its easy to see where he picks up so much time, its as simple as corner speed, i cant hope to keep pace, which you would expect. Pasrt of it is suspension up to the job, part of it is driving, all of it means he is way quicker:(

Anyway, any road car that gets under 1:10s is doing well at Wakefield as it must be a reasonably balanced car with reasonable grunt and pretty well driven.

I might go and buy the silly mag, at least it has prety girls:)

[Gonad Man]

R-Spec rubber is not considered "street class" in the club motorsport series I run in. I guess the differentiation between R-Spec and "street rubber" (based on treadwear rating) is to keep costs down for people that can't afford to run gumballs that need replacing at very short intervals.

So in this competition R-Spec street legal rubber is considered "street rubber". Thanks for clarifying.

I agree with you about the 1:04 though. I'm a little sceptical and I look forward to seeing the results.

...Ben