benl1981 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 About to put in some new spark plugs as I have a bit of hesitation. Engine RB25DET. I don't want to put in spark plugs with gap 1.1mm to find out that they should have been at 0.8mm. Car has full 3" exhaust. 10psi and R34 intercooler. ..i.e. small mods. Question: If I get 0.8mm gapped plugs instead of 1.1mm will I lose any power/response? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Only if you are using stock boost. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1386881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benl1981 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 So if I am running 7-8psi run 1.1 gap. Otherwise 9-10psi run 0.8mm gap? How much power/response would you lose on stock boost by runnning .8 gap, is it marginal?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1386890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 yeh use the 0.8mm with 10psi another question, the rb20det which has a higher standard boost, should it always be at 1.1mm ?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1386893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WazR32GTSt Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 obviously smaller gap will lose power... otherwise all spark plugs would be gapped down very small just run as large a gap as you can without getting any side effects (ie misfire) i used to run 1.1mm gap on my rb20 running 12psi, and only dropped it to 0.8mm because when it can time for replacements (i use coppers) i couldn't find any 1.1mm ones so just got 0.8mm ones because they were in front of my face but in the end... the difference may not be all that significant Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1386941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benl1981 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Ok. I might just run copper 0.8mm. I'm going to get either BCPR6E or BKR6E I guess heat range 6 should be ok for stockish car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WazR32GTSt Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Ok. I might just run copper 0.8mm. I'm going to get either BCPR6Eor BKR6E I guess heat range 6 should be ok for stockish car. BCPR6ES will work fine i would think Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benl1981 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 The ones I've taken out were double platinum. There is one that had heaps of corrosion or something on it. The last picture shows the sparkie..do these look very worn to you? Thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siksII Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 thats what happens when water gets in, maybe when the engine bay was cleaned. no big deal just clean it up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benl1981 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thanks mate. Maybe from when it went through quarantine or whatever. The plug itself looked ok... The gap was about 1-1.1mm. Might try some coppers at 0.8mm Apparently the plugs that came out are expensive, but do they have any life left?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyk Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Im running coppers gapped @ 0.8mm in my GTR running 1 bar of boost No complaints thus far Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1387850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
proengines Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 We had a GTR on a dyno yesterday and it was showing signs of the ignition breaking down at around 7000rpm, the power curve flattened off at around 295kw and the line looked like a bush saw. We regapped the plugs from 1mm down to .8mm and it made 320kW with the power curve doing the same thing at the top end. It's a pretty good sign that the ignition system is on the way out and this one will be getting a new set of coils and plugs gapped to what they should be. This engine has the compression bumped up slightly and is running around 22psi from 4000ish onwards so it does place a lot more load on the ignition. It will be interesting to see what sort of power this engine makes with enough spark to make another useful 1500 or so RPM as the power curve was heading up at around 70ish degrees and it hit its peak torque at around 5500-6000ish and the line stayed almost horizontal until the ignition died off. Usually if you have to close the plug gap up to stop ignition problems it means that you have an ignition problem further down the line and without fixing that first you will never make the power that the engine has the potential to. Because coils are expensive to replace, a lot of people ignore them and try to band-aid the problem by other methods but you'll never make the power that you should. Compared to the price of other mods, $7-800 for a new set of performance coils is really pretty cheap power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1389957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATGTS-R Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 benl1981 if you have not had any problems with misfire etc I would keep the 1.1mm gap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1389961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtst25 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I guess heat range 6 should be ok for stockish car. I doubt you'd have any problems going to heat range 7 though - I've had no probs even on cold mornings - I run .85mm gap, 15 psi, 210RWKW. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/75567-08mm-gap-instead-of-11mm-will-i-lose-any-powerresponse/#findComment-1390744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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