Anyone Know How 'trade Prices' Work?

[SS8_Gohan]

Hey y'all

got a friend who's an apprentice at a workshop, who can get 'trade prices'... now, does anyone know how trade prices work? Is there like an average percentage discount over the RRP?

specifically looking at Splitfire coilpacks... RRP around $990, some groups buys were getting $640... where exactly would the 'trade price' fit in there??

i'm just not sure if there is a rule of thumb, or barely any difference, etc..

cheers,

chinny

[noise]

what do you need coils for? gtt coils shouldnt be worn out yet, tried gapping your plugs?

[SS8_Gohan]

gtt coils seem to be pretty crappy :S

car is def running on 5> cylinders... sounds like a WRX, get 'ignition' error code and the engine as well as TCS and SLIP lights are on... almost guaranteed to be a coilpack with those symptons..

but then again, i haven't tried gapping my plugs? do you think it could fix all those problems?

[noise]

have you replaced the plugs since you got the car?

when I got my car in I put iridiums in it. It used to missfire and splutter at 4-5k/rpm. I gapped the plugs to .8 and it totally fixed it.

The coil packs are the last thing you should be replacing unless you really have to, check the plugs first.

p.s oh didnt read your other "symptoms" no idea now

Edited August 31, 2005 by tdawg

[SS8_Gohan]

i think it's recommended to get new sparkies anyway when u change the coilpacks...

can a dodge spark plug knock a cylinder out??

EDIT: hahaha, hijacked my own thread - this thread is specifically for TRADE PRICES, so anyone can jump in with that info if they want

[thrtytwo]

trade prices arent a discount from RRP. its the opposite way. Manufacturers supply goods at a set price and give a RRP that retailers should obide by but arent constricted to. They can choose to go over or under. They dont usually go over though. Goods can be marked up from trade price by as much as 80% or more sometimes. Its a rikken ripp off really. Depends what the product is. If its a bag of lollies it might go from $1 to $1.50. but on something like car parts i would guess they jack the prices up huge amounts. Mass produced metal doesnt cost too much to manufacture. Its most likely the research that went into initially creating it that your paying for. Or just a brand name lol

basically im saying i have no idea what the trade price would be. You would have to be in or know someone who is in the industry to get that info. hope this hgelps a bit.

Edited August 31, 2005 by thrtytwo

[Sumo]

Well, in my field (auto electrical) When you buy products from a supplier they work from a RRP at their shops so that we can sell the same product at the same price. I suppose its price fixing, but if they started to sell their products with the trade discount to the public well we would go out of business. Last thing the supplier wants is our company to go out of business as we spend $6-10K a month where as someone off the street may spend $200.

Cheers

Sumo

[Warpspeed]

To get trade price you need to be in the trade.

All you need to do is register a Company name with corporate affairs. Any name will do, as long as nobody else has registered it, "Shonky Auto Repairs" or something like that would be fine.

You then get some business cards printed and an official order book with the company name. You will also get a tax file number for your new business which will need to be shown on the order book.

That enables you to get everything at trade price and escape paying GST. The only disadvantage is you have to fill out a tax return for the business each year and forward all the GST you collect off your customers to the tax office.

[NA_R33]

Just registering a company doesnt always fix the problems, most wholesalers give a larger discount off retail price to those who buy in bulk. The more you buy the greater the discount... this is the same for all industries.. As i deal with alot of steal and hydraulic gear and are in the top ten purchasers from a few of our suppliers we recieve up to 80-90% off the list price.

Its the same for all industries. This is why alot of group buys can can better prices then buying a single item at trade price.

[lwells]

i think it's recommended to get new sparkies anyway when u change the coilpacks...

can a dodge spark plug knock a cylinder out??

EDIT: hahaha, hijacked my own thread - this thread is specifically for TRADE PRICES, so anyone can jump in with that info if they want

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To answer the hijack. If the sparkplug isn't sparking (i.e. its busted) or, for example, the spark is being blown out (i.e. the gap is wrong) then yes. Replace them as they tend to get fouled if the car isn't tuned for local fuel and is running rich. Makes sure when you get them to check the gapping with a feeler guage: I can't understand why people always rely on pre-gapped plugs being spot on because there is quite a variation in my experience.

[SAMFISHER]

trade prices arent a discount from RRP. its the opposite way. Manufacturers supply goods at a set price and give a RRP that retailers should obide by but arent constricted to.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are a bit mixed up there you are refering to "wholesale" prices which is what a wholesaler would charge a retailer. Trade prices are a discounted price that a retailer would charge companies or individuals that use their products in their business/trade.

ie a paint shop would sell paint at a trade discount to a painter, a parts shop sould sell parts at a trade discount to a workshop.

[thrtytwo]

You are a bit mixed up there you are refering to "wholesale" prices which is what a wholesaler would charge a retailer. Trade prices are a discounted price that a retailer would charge companies or individuals that use their products in their business/trade.

ie a paint shop would sell paint at a trade discount to a painter, a parts shop sould sell parts at a trade discount to a workshop.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ahh ok my bad, thnx for clearing that up lol. Now i feel like an idiot

[dangerous_daveo]

Dont companys HAVE to give a trade discount to mechanics etc? As in legally have to give the discount? Thats my understanding of it, only because one of my mates whos been a mech for 15 years or so has told me so. Wouldnt have a clue otherwise.

Wholesale is different. And shops that sell at 'wholesale' prices are a joke.

[cowie165]

Short version:

Nope, a retailer does not have to offer a cheaper price for someone in the 'trade'. They can offer whatever price they like.

Long-winded version:

A marked price is legally not even an offer, merely an invitation to 'treat' - ie. the seller is giving you an idea of what price he'd find acceptable. When you pick up an item and take it to the counter, you are then making an offer to buy the fuel pump (or whatever) at the marked price of $400. If you're in the trade, you could offer less, but more often, the seller will now make a formal offer at the 'trade' price to encourage you to do business with him/her.

Everything is technically negotiable, even your groceries at Coles, but we all know that the cashier is not going to accept your offer to buy a bottle of Coke for less than the marked price.

[cowie165]

Wholesale is different. And shops that sell at 'wholesale' prices are a joke.

lol, like some import brokers that sell 'at cost'

No markups my arse.