Any 1 Involved In Motorsport, Track Etc?

[RU34ME]

hey guys

i wanna get involved in comptitive motorsport.. probably improved production series, of maybe even jus club stuff

car is a 180sx, with rb25det, s15 front.

prepared to stip interior, do full cams cage, fuell cell etc,

what exactly is needed???

thanks

ryan

0410 332 673

[Duncan]

which state are you in Ryan? We've got a fair few people doing CAMS events in NSW and Vic

But you won't need to do much at all to your car to get started

[Sydneykid]

hey guys

i wanna get involved in comptitive motorsport.. probably improved  production series, of maybe even jus club stuff

car is a 180sx, with rb25det, s15 front.

prepared to stip interior, do full cams cage, fuell cell etc,

what exactly is needed???

thanks

ryan

0410 332 673

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Hi Ryan, trying desparately not to rain on your parade.

Improved Production regs require an engine with same number of cylinders as the car came with standard and the engine must come from the same manufacturer. So the 6 cylinder RB in a 180SX (that came with a 4 cylinder) is a no go. Plus the body panels must be standard, except the front bumper and rear spoiler. So the S15 front is a no go as well.

You could run it as a Sports Sedan, no problems with the engine swap and you might get away with the S15 front. But they are seriously fast, faster than a V8Supercar, so the competition is hot.

I am not sure what to suggest to get you racing, other than change cars. Maybe try a few Spersprints first and see how you like the circuits. No problems with running in them, very few sports sedans, so not a lot of competion. And you can get mixed in with Skylines and others on the day for some fun.

Join SAU and then look for invites to circuits that interest you. I am sure the guys will help uou out with a standard set of supersprint Sup Regs that you can study. Maybe pop out to an event before you run one to get a feel for what goes on and the types and speed of the cars.

cheers

[slow_r31]

sorry mate

but u can't racce in improved production with a 180sx with a rb25det, change from 4 to 6 cylinder is not allowed.

if you've never done track stuff before, do some track days man, best way to get a feel, have a chat to the guys u meet there, most are pretty friendly and you'll have a ball in the process.

[Duncan]

Well doing some motorsport and getting into state level circuit racing are very different things. There's absolutely no problem running an rb25 180sx in superspirints, hillclimbs, track days etc etc etc

it might get classed as a sports sedan but that doesn't stop anyone having fun , and it may well be one the pace for supersprinting with some work anyway

[RU34ME]

thanks guys yeah i wasnt sure on the improved production, i was jus suggesting it as an option ... what other things could i compete in?

and what would i hav to do to my car to make it aproved for all events?? thanks guys

[Duncan]

What you need for most CAMS events are:

Fire extinguisher within reach of the driver, at least 0.9kg.

Blue triangle on the body showing where the battery is

Often you need a "secondary bonnet restraint" to stop the bonnet opening if the main catch fails. The easiest way is a belt or rope around the bonnet, but you can also use a range of bonnet pins if you are willing to take a chance on road legality

You will need:

Kneck to ankle clothing, not synthetic

ADR approved helmet.

And that is it for the regs for pretty much any CAMS event other that circuit racing. And if you are getting started supersprints (3-5 timed laps with a few other cars) and hillclimbs (closed road timed run) are where you want to start, as well as some proper driver training like Peter Findlay offers in NSW.

Where are you based?

[RU34ME]

im in sydney

im still building the car at the moment, motors in, front end is on, it jus is getting vertex kit and new turbo, thats why im tryin to find out all the regs, especially for the inside, so i can get cage and seat/harness etc

[Duncan]

Well you should join up with SAU NSW, we can organise the CAMS license for you and it will make sure you find out about the events we are doing. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=44115

Next big event is the Bathurst hillclimb and supersprint first weekend of December.

You do not need a cage, seat, seatbelts etc for a road regoed car in CAMS events except racing.

Personally I think that a fixed seat and 4 point harness are a great addition when on the track, but they are an absolute pain in the arse for daily driving, don't underestimate how much it will sh1t you having to undo a harness to get your drive thru...or pay a toll....or get petrol...etc etc

If you do want to do full on circuit racing you need to get hold of the CAMS manual. Like everyone said above because you have changed to 6 cylinder, Sports Sedans is pretty much the only category you could race in, and you would be competing against 6 litre space frame chevs and 20b capris If you still want to go that way you will need a CAMS approved cage (can't do it yourself you need an approved builder to do it), seat, harness, tailshaft loop, window nets, ignition kill switch, front and rear tow points, and enough stickers to make a honda owner jealous.

[blk180]

Hi Duncan what are the limits on improved production engine wise in a GTR

[Duncan]

Sydneykid is a better person to ask about improved production and gtrs....but here are my 2 yen.

You would be mad to run a gtr in improved production!

[Duncan]

Basically improved production is free as far as the block goes as long as you use a 6 cylinder nissan block. Head, inlet, exhaust and turbos are free.

But the big problem is that turbo cars have to run air intake restrictors, which in the the GTR are 2x27mm from memory.

On the other hand GTRs with standard motors and turbos are eligible for Production Cars (3E) and that is a very different story...there we can kick arse